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I decided to disable AMP on my site

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Re: I decided to disable AMP on my site

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Post by cdubzzz »

madeofpalk wrote: post #16

> On iPhone, AMP seems to override the default browser scrolling. As a result scrolling of AMP pages feels off. Good news! iOS 11 fixes this. Safari actually has an inconsistent scrolling speed compared to the rest of the OS. iOS 11 makes all Safari pages scroll at the same speed as AMP sites (-webkit-overflow-scrolling: touch) Also important distinction for people to remember - AMP is two products: - CDN with preloa…

Re: two products, I realized this but never really thought about it. Can one self-host an AMP (framework) implementation? Does Google still promote such content, even if it isn't part of their CDN?

Re: I decided to disable AMP on my site

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Post by Iv »

boramalper wrote: post #2

The author has some very valid points against AMP from a technical standpoint, but for me there is a single reason that is sufficient: the Web is, and should stay, free and open . Indeed, I'm having really hard time trying to understand how people can be fine with AMP while fighting for the net neutrality and so on.

I fail to see what, in AMP, makes the web less free or open. I am usually among the first on the stockade on invasive tech, but I have a hard time to understand the fuss around AMP.

Yes, the cache is problematic, as it may allow Google, in a possible future, to filter some content, censor some other or not refresh often some pages. The thing is, if it does that, people will start using Google's caching, that's as simple as that.

Re: I decided to disable AMP on my site

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Post by ferongr »

romanovcode wrote: post #18
runn1ng wrote: post #12

Funny thing is - I, as a reader, love AMP sites. If a website offers AMP, I will prefer it from normal thing. It has less ads, less bloat, better signal/noise ratio, and the AMP websites look pleasant to eye. So I prefer them even on desktop, ironically. I still have the issues with Google's AMP caching. But AMP itself is great .

You can use Firefox and have 0 ads with uBlock Origin.

But then you have to suffer the UI of Firefox for Android.

Re: I decided to disable AMP on my site

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Post by ehsankia »

Iv wrote: post #22
boramalper wrote: post #2

The author has some very valid points against AMP from a technical standpoint, but for me there is a single reason that is sufficient: the Web is, and should stay, free and open . Indeed, I'm having really hard time trying to understand how people can be fine with AMP while fighting for the net neutrality and so on.

I fail to see what, in AMP, makes the web less free or open. I am usually among the first on the stockade on invasive tech, but I have a hard time to understand the fuss around AMP. Yes, the cache is problematic, as it may allow Google, in a possible future, to filter some content, censor some other or not refresh often some pages. The thing is, if it does that, people will start using Google's caching, that's as sim…

And as I user, I've never had any issues and I still don't really see the whole fuss about "copying the link being much harder". I love the much much faster load times and couldn't be happier.

Re: I decided to disable AMP on my site

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Post by yoz-y »

runn1ng wrote: post #20
romanovcode wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use Firefox and have 0 ads with uBlock Origin.

AMP sites still look better. I am using this simple extension that shows me when a website has AMP version and I switch to it (not sure if there is an extension that does this automatically). Doesn't work 100% though https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/amplifier-ampcanon... edit: oh, this one seems to do it automatically. Nice https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/%E2%9A%A1%EF%B8%8F...

The problem that the tech to make any page look like an amp page existed long before amp. But Google, rather than heavily penalising heavy websites decided to push AMP. They could have just pushed for normal HTML but no, now everybody has to write two versions of the pages. (Granted, à cms can handle generating AMP alongside RSS and so on)

Re: I decided to disable AMP on my site

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Post by TekMol »

To me, AMP is the same wallet garden that Facebook is.

Google and Facebook both say: "Give us your content. But without the crap. Just the content. Since we don't allow crap, users prefer the experience over here. So your content will have more readers then on your own domain.".

And for some reason publishers are crazy enough to do that. Instead of removing the crap on their own domains in the first place.

Re: I decided to disable AMP on my site

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Post by ehsankia »

romanovcode wrote: post #6

The fact that website content is stored on Google servers and being served from Google is just disgusting.

Giving you free hosting all across the world, much closer to your users, is disgusting?

Unless you're hosting a webserver on your computer, your server is most likely being hosted in the cloud somewhere (aka some random computer somewhere in the world). How is it being on a Google server, instead of company X's server, suddenly disgusting?

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