Grsecurity wouldn't exist if Linux made security a priority. It doesn't, because backwards compatibility and features is more important to them. It doesn't mean because Linus says something so strongly on a subject is right or wrong, he is generally abusive and rants and has for years. Grsecurity is important to some people, not all, and vice versa for the features and backwards compatibility crowd. Personally I'd ho…
Linus: Don't bother with grsecurity. Their patches are pure garbage
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Re: Linus: Don't bother with grsecurity. Their patches are pure garbage
#32This is just celebrity gossip/hype/flaming. Nothing new, interesting, or intellectually curious here.
Re: Linus: Don't bother with grsecurity. Their patches are pure garbage
#33Re: Linus: Don't bother with grsecurity. Their patches are pure garbage
#34Linus, and this stubborn attitude of his, is the reason that Linux will always lag behind Windows in kernel security. With the vast security improvements Microsoft are putting into their operating system year on year, it's a shame to see Linux failing to keep up.
>Linux will always lag behind Windows in kernel security Are you serious about that statement ?
Re: Linus: Don't bother with grsecurity. Their patches are pure garbage
#35Wouldn't it be nice if you didn't demand free work of us in our free time? seems an odd line, but is there some context for the non-Linux person on what is going on?
Re: Linus: Don't bother with grsecurity. Their patches are pure garbage
#36See Linus' follow-up http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2017/q2/596 for clarification: > They aren't split up, there has never been any effort by you to make them palatable to upstream, and when somebody else dioes try to make them palatable to upstream, you start crying about how people are taking advantage of your work (hah), and try to make them private instead. ... > It's literally less work for people to re-implement t…
And the other guy's reply: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2017/q2/597
Clearly a load of crap. I think they should quit being spicy and think about what they should be doing instead.
Re: Linus: Don't bother with grsecurity. Their patches are pure garbage
#37See Linus' follow-up http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2017/q2/596 for clarification: > They aren't split up, there has never been any effort by you to make them palatable to upstream, and when somebody else dioes try to make them palatable to upstream, you start crying about how people are taking advantage of your work (hah), and try to make them private instead. ... > It's literally less work for people to re-implement t…
And the other guy's reply: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2017/q2/597
Do many people have a taste for kernel drama and Linus antics? I mostly just want the software.
Re: Linus: Don't bother with grsecurity. Their patches are pure garbage
#38This is just celebrity gossip/hype/flaming. Nothing new, interesting, or intellectually curious here.
I have to agree with this given the post. If Linus had a concrete example rather than just his sweeping condemnation, it would be different.
Re: Linus: Don't bother with grsecurity. Their patches are pure garbage
#39Re: Linus: Don't bother with grsecurity. Their patches are pure garbage
#40Grsecurity creates patches for issues in upstream, but their patches are too fucking big/ugly, so nobody upstream really wants to merge them, and when someone tries to fix em (take the important bits out), grsecurity complains about them using their work.
Grsecurity then say they don't feel like doing a lot of work on their patches when they're not paid to do it.