I suspect this is one of the reasons he stepped down.
Uber admits ex-CEO Kalanick knew Levandowski had stolen Google information
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Re: Uber admits ex-CEO Kalanick knew Levandowski had stolen Google information
#12One of the key points is buried a few paragraphs in. > "Uber, though, says Kalanick told Levandowski not to bring any of the Google information with him to Uber... The filing asserts that Levandowski destroyed the disks containing Google's material not long after Kalanick told him that Uber didn't want the information on them." I have no way of knowing if the above is true, but if so, it paints Kalanick in a far more…
It sounds more like they decided to throw Levandowski under the bus. Whether any of that is true or not, they know that it's already an established fact that Levandowski had the disks with Google information and they can't keep pretending they didn't know. The only reasonable course of action is for them to admit that they knew, but that Levandowski was the sole bad actor, and they didn't want anything to do with the stolen information.
Re: Uber admits ex-CEO Kalanick knew Levandowski had stolen Google information
#13Way overblown headline relative to the filing that 3 long days ago.
I am no fan of Uber but this AP writer is terribly sloppy in his formulations.
> Uber knew fired exec had info at center of Google theft case
Absolutely not what it says in the filing.
All the filing says is Lewendowski tells Travis he has five “disks” of data from google. It could be a backup of his pst files, roll out plans for Orkut, cafeteria menues, we have no idea from the filing. So the filing is very far away from both Uber “admitting” it knew and that this data is the “stolen information” central to this case.
> The filing asserts that Levandowski destroyed the disks containing Google's material not long after Kalanick told him that Uber didn't want the information on them.
So sloppy it’s painful.
This implies than Lewendowski propositioned Travis and said “let’s go build this dirty LIDAR together” and Travis declined. Not supported by the filings!
The incident this refers to was an email thread between Travis and Lewendowski that had two lawyers Cc’d on. This was perfunctory Dislosure that he has some info, and a perfunctory response from Travis saying “don’t bring any info from prior employers.”
If you are going to make a dirty LIDAR you hand off a usb drive on a long walk across the city, not plot in front of your lawyers.
Again, I am no Uber fan, but this is one of the worst pieces of reporting I’ve seen that I can remember. Very misleading article.
Re: Uber admits ex-CEO Kalanick knew Levandowski had stolen Google information
#14One of the key points is buried a few paragraphs in. > "Uber, though, says Kalanick told Levandowski not to bring any of the Google information with him to Uber... The filing asserts that Levandowski destroyed the disks containing Google's material not long after Kalanick told him that Uber didn't want the information on them." I have no way of knowing if the above is true, but if so, it paints Kalanick in a far more…
So is this a fair characterization of the conversation?
L: I've access to Google's lidar designs if we ever need them.
K: Burn it bro. I don't want that stuff traced to us. I'll still buy you out.
Levandowki ends up using the (already stolen) designs anyway as revealed in the accidental email from the 3rd party vendor.
Re: Uber admits ex-CEO Kalanick knew Levandowski had stolen Google information
#15One of the key points is buried a few paragraphs in. > "Uber, though, says Kalanick told Levandowski not to bring any of the Google information with him to Uber... The filing asserts that Levandowski destroyed the disks containing Google's material not long after Kalanick told him that Uber didn't want the information on them." I have no way of knowing if the above is true, but if so, it paints Kalanick in a far more…
If I were a CEO and a potential new hire told me he had stolen confidential information, there's no way I'd hire him. Even ignoring lawsuits, I'd be worried that he would turn around and steal my confidential information.
Re: Uber admits ex-CEO Kalanick knew Levandowski had stolen Google information
#16> "The filing asserts that Levandowski destroyed the disks containing Google's material not long after Kalanick told him that Uber didn't want the information on them."
A person that takes a trove of proprietary information like that is unlikely to just destroy it. My suspicion is that he'd keep it for reference until it became a liability.
Re: Uber admits ex-CEO Kalanick knew Levandowski had stolen Google information
#17One of the key points is buried a few paragraphs in. > "Uber, though, says Kalanick told Levandowski not to bring any of the Google information with him to Uber... The filing asserts that Levandowski destroyed the disks containing Google's material not long after Kalanick told him that Uber didn't want the information on them." I have no way of knowing if the above is true, but if so, it paints Kalanick in a far more…
> it paints Kalanick in a far more positive light than the headline suggests.
Not to me, if I'm doing business with someone and they say "oh, I also stole this other stuff you might like" I'd take that as a red flag about their ethical fortitude. The actually appropriate thing to do would be to Google/Waymo of the potential IP threat and insulate Uber from future legal repercussions. Walk away from the acquisition.
The behavior is still unethical.
Re: Uber admits ex-CEO Kalanick knew Levandowski had stolen Google information
#18Re: Uber admits ex-CEO Kalanick knew Levandowski had stolen Google information
#19Way overblown headline relative to the filing that 3 long days ago. I am no fan of Uber but this AP writer is terribly sloppy in his formulations. > Uber knew fired exec had info at center of Google theft case Absolutely not what it says in the filing. All the filing says is Lewendowski tells Travis he has five “disks” of data from google. It could be a backup of his pst files, roll out plans for Orkut, cafeteria men…
It is quite unlikely that five disks would contain cafeteria menus. I don't thing that judge would buy such theory as plausible. In any case, it is goggle data even if not related to cars.
Another question, why would you kept lawyer out of loop if planning to do something dirty? It is dumb to do it over mail, but lawyer won't rat you put and can have advice about how best to hide it (in person not in writing sInce lawyer want to keep license).