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The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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Re: The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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Perhaps eating is just one of the most common ways of getting dangerous toxins into our body?

What toxins?

Pesticides are showing increased evidence of hurting society through the foods they protect. In fact there was a post here on HN today regarding this.

Re: The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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I can't find the study right now, but from what I understand it is only really beneficial to animals the size of a mice, as soon as you move to bigger animals the effect is sharply reduced, and experiments with monkeys (or was it even primates? I don't remember) didn't find any real life prolonging effect. So you might be subjecting yourself to not enjoying food for no real benefit after all.

The article discusses studies with Rhesus monkeys that largely confirmed the results of the mice studies, and also mentions a study with humans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CALERIE) and some early, positive results.

Re: The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if it means dying a year earlier I'm going to eat salted butter and drink red wine and enjoy it. Better to enjoy less than to have more you don't enjoy?

I think the dynamics are more complicated than that. Some diseases seriously mess with your quality of life, whether it be chemo for cancer or blood pressure medicine with nasty side effects for heart disease. Or my least favorite, a decade of Alzheimer's. I heard the ideal death described as pretty solid health up to a very rapid decline, healthy food probably helps that.

Yep, totally agree. If you got acid reflux, you cant enjoy coffee or spicy foods at all.

If only if it was as simple as enjoy junk food and your life and die a few years younger.

Re: The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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Most articles on eating tend to focus on weight, drawing the conclusion that weight (fat) is the problem, not eating. This article provides a refreshing perspective: > But the latest results suggested that significant health benefits can be garnered in an already healthy body – a person who isn’t underweight or obese. The take away here is that the problem with excessive eating isn't just the weight gain. There's som…

> There's something about eating itself which is stressful.

Which is more stressful -- eating, or being hangry all the time?

Re: The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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post #18

I can't find the study right now, but from what I understand it is only really beneficial to animals the size of a mice, as soon as you move to bigger animals the effect is sharply reduced, and experiments with monkeys (or was it even primates? I don't remember) didn't find any real life prolonging effect. So you might be subjecting yourself to not enjoying food for no real benefit after all.

I recall watching a video of an engineer practicing CR. He looked miserable and older than his years. He was constantly cold and had chronic sore feet because the soles of his feet were too thin. When I don't eat enough, I don't get hungry, and I don't loose much weight, but I do have trouble sleeping which results in daytime fatigue and depression. For me the happiness/sleep threshold is sharp, so I eat just above t…

I'm not sure if you skip breakfast, but if you do, you are missing a strong signal to your circadian rhythm. What happens is you end up sleeping later and waking up later as the rhythm shifts towards your first meal of the day.

Re: The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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Good overview of the benefits of calorie restriction, but doesn't touch on two of the most important schools of thought of the past couple years.

1. Calorie restriction is almost impossible for most humans to follow long term

2. Many of the same benefits of calorie restriction may be achievable through intermittent fasting, which is much easier for people to follow. I've been experimenting with a daily 16 hour fast (all calories consumed within an 8-hour window) and have seen small improvements in my energy and general well-being, although it's decades too early to say how this will impact my longevity.

Relevant articles: https://www.nature.com/articles/srep33739 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2622429/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-hunger-gains-...

Re: The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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Most articles on eating tend to focus on weight, drawing the conclusion that weight (fat) is the problem, not eating. This article provides a refreshing perspective: > But the latest results suggested that significant health benefits can be garnered in an already healthy body – a person who isn’t underweight or obese. The take away here is that the problem with excessive eating isn't just the weight gain. There's som…

> Restricting calories is good for you even if you're already within a healthy BMI. How much of this study, and your statement, applies to highly active individuals, and atheletes? I box and train 5 - 7 times a week, and spar (high intensity with protective gear) twice a month. I tried restricting calories to lose fat and "lean out" but I find that I am constantly hungry (even after consuming proteins) and like someo…

Probably not much. But really think back on your training arc in the past.

When I am in my training phase doing krav-maga, lifting weights, biking... yeah, I need thousands of calories to feel healthy (I never really counted how much).

But immediately after (assuming the muscle you built is not just inflated and is comprised of lean strength), I have personally found I can get away with very few calories/day for several months.

Re: The secret to a long and healthy life? Eat less

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post #34

Most articles on eating tend to focus on weight, drawing the conclusion that weight (fat) is the problem, not eating. This article provides a refreshing perspective: > But the latest results suggested that significant health benefits can be garnered in an already healthy body – a person who isn’t underweight or obese. The take away here is that the problem with excessive eating isn't just the weight gain. There's som…

> There's something about eating itself which is stressful. Which is more stressful -- eating, or being hangry all the time?

Eating. I don't want to be fat again.
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