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Star Citizen is likely in financial trouble

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Re: Star Citizen is likely in financial trouble

#11

Not very surprised, the game has been a trainwreck in the making from the beginning. Total scope was just way too overambitious, and people weren't going to plow hundreds and thousands of dollars into spaceship jpegs forever.

Precisely, and this has been painfully obvious for a long time. Not even to me (I don't really follow the game) but to a few people whose opinion I respect, including multiple video game journalists.

Re: Star Citizen is likely in financial trouble

#12

I know SC initial funding is unprecedented, but is taking out what amounts to a line of credit really that uncommon? It doesn't necessarily mean the initial 150M has dried up -> thus the sky just may not be falling?

The terms of the loan we're really, really unfavorable. They essentially pledged every piece of IP they have to get the loan. It's not the kind of loan you take if your company is healthy and has easy access to financing.

Re: Star Citizen is likely in financial trouble

#14
Not surprised. The whole enterprise seemed fishy from the start. I contributed to the Kickstarter but basically gave up on it once they moved to their new campaign website and their business model became so complicated I didn't know what they were offering or I was buying anymore. Endless offers and perks with no have in sight didn't help.

Weird that Roberts didn't know better.

Re: Star Citizen is likely in financial trouble

#16
post #6

Seems like incredibly poor budgeting given that they had $150M and couldn't deliver even a limited version of the game. Maybe I'm underestimating the costs somehow, but you could easily pay pretty high salaries for 100+ people's time over a few years of development with that kind of money. I wonder what they did with it?

I imagine it's not hard to lose 150 million if you give it to someone who has never managed 150 million, and make them unaccountable to anyone.

Re: Star Citizen is likely in financial trouble

#17
You have to admit, they made really good commercials for in-game content. They stayed in character, too. A few hand-picked favorites:

- Imagine: Star Citizen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJJ9TcGxhNY

- Star Citizen - MISC Freelancer Commercial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO7RxsZpcKc

- Star Citizen: Consolidated Outland Mustang Commercial : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR07oZC0QHU

- Introducing the 2944 Aurora: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvDs7RDKCag

Full playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVct2QDhDrB0QRjv9oN02...

Re: Star Citizen is likely in financial trouble

#18
The fact that any bank considered lending to a tiny company like this with no revenue stream is actually a positive sign. As for pledging all their "assets", that is completely standard. They have no assets to speak of - their "IP" is 100% worthless without future sales, which will never happen if the game doesn't get released. And further, because the money was raised from crowdfunding, the only equity holders that might suffer are the creators.

It's really important to understand finance if you want to understand the world and it's not that hard.

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Re: Star Citizen is likely in financial trouble

#19
Ahhh Star Citizen. The first crowdfunding campaign I ever backed, and I backed it to the tune of $120-150 (I don't even remember). I figured it was a gamble, but their demos were and continue to be extremely impressive, and what's life without a little risk? I doubt all the other backers will be so forgiving, however. Things are likely to get pretty ugly if the company folds.

Re: Star Citizen is likely in financial trouble

#20
To quote a reddit comment :

I should point out that this is not necessarily a bad thing, nor is it clear what the loan is for. What this tells us is that money has been loaned and secured against assets owned by CIG - this is fairly common practice in the case of commercial loans.

To bank with Coutts you must have at least £1,000,000 in tangible assets and in any event they are selective about their clientele; which implies CIG is doing well.

To be honest as much as the terms are huge, they didn't go to a loan shark neither a shitty bank. It's the bank that manage the assets of the Queen. I don't think they give loan that easily hence the huge collaterals.

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