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Re: The slow death of the electric guitar

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Post by fh973 »

johan_larson wrote: post #41
d--b wrote: post #27

I think it's a bit naive to believe that guitar heroes can bring the interest for the guitar back. People look back at the guitar heroes time with a nostalgic fondness for a time that doesn't exist anymore. This was already visible in Wayne's world and became more than obvious in school of rock. Guitar-heavy rock has become a geek genre. Pop has moved on. There are obviously various reasons for this: 1. Technological…

The electric guitar is now what the saxophone was in the fifties: the iconic instrument of the hottest music of dad's generation.

Hold on, I am a not very young dad and the music of my youth was with two turntables and a mic. The 90s golden age of hip hop :) There was also electronic music like techno, drum and bass, ...

Guitar music is I'd say evergreen, but hasn't been the hottest thing for much longer.

Re: The slow death of the electric guitar

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Post by kristofferR »

agumonkey wrote: post #87
kaoD wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMHO there will not be a next Miles Davies or a next Jimmy Hendrix. Or rather, they've already been. The last 40 years of music have experienced such a revolution, we've already had many of those (most of them relegated to obscurity through sheer volume and industrialization of music). But now that I've re-read your comment you've already mentioned the niche-ization :) Hip-hop was a revolutionary genre like rock musi…

I don't listen to much electronic music, but I find no subtleties or sensitivity in what I hear. I understand that dismissing the new for no other reason is useless but I just don't feel it.

What do you think about this kind of electronic music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9s6Vi-Ts-k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvmYo3q1qrg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeaGUfZM5hs

https://di.fm/channels is worth checking out BTW, it's a radio network with over 90 genres/channels with electronic music. If you don't find something you like there it's because you're determined to not like it.

Re: The slow death of the electric guitar

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Post by davnicwil »

agumonkey wrote: post #87
kaoD wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMHO there will not be a next Miles Davies or a next Jimmy Hendrix. Or rather, they've already been. The last 40 years of music have experienced such a revolution, we've already had many of those (most of them relegated to obscurity through sheer volume and industrialization of music). But now that I've re-read your comment you've already mentioned the niche-ization :) Hip-hop was a revolutionary genre like rock musi…

I don't listen to much electronic music, but I find no subtleties or sensitivity in what I hear. I understand that dismissing the new for no other reason is useless but I just don't feel it.

Another recommendation: HEALTH Disco 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRIvjnpXOQI

It's actually an album full of electro remixes of songs from the HEALTH album GET COLOR (which is also an incredible album, but rather different in style) by different artists.

One of my favourite albums of all time. You'll find a lot in there if you give it a few listens :-)

Re: The slow death of the electric guitar

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Post by johan_larson »

fh973 wrote: post #91
johan_larson wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The electric guitar is now what the saxophone was in the fifties: the iconic instrument of the hottest music of dad's generation.

Hold on, I am a not very young dad and the music of my youth was with two turntables and a mic. The 90s golden age of hip hop :) There was also electronic music like techno, drum and bass, ... Guitar music is I'd say evergreen, but hasn't been the hottest thing for much longer.

OK, so it's the music of dad's dad's generation. I was double-extra right. :)

Re: The slow death of the electric guitar

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Post by tluyben2 »

cyberferret wrote: post #68
tluyben2 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guitar players are usually not remembered by the general public unless they have something else (like being cute). Worse for bass players and drummers, but the frontman/singer gets remembered. It was always a fight. Singer/guitarists is always easier but, like you said, usually considered non guitarist. I listened to the youtube you included and disclaimer taste/I am old, but then I listened to a lot of what he did:…

Another guitarist/singer that is a favourite of mine is Joe Bonamassa. He is almost invisible outside of the guitar player or blues/rock enthusiast field, but is VERY successful, and busy touring the world... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-69Djk5HdQ

Again, I might be old or weird but all you posted is nice but something not, to me, interesting to play. This is all personal taste and whatever, but as a guitar player, I can not only feel what they will play but also just play it. And, as it goes with many things, if I can do it, it cannot be all that special(that is probably something people take pills for these days ;)

So some things I find amazing:

https://youtu.be/v1c1SaG_gKA (with his huge fingers, playing one note with feeling you cannot copy)

https://youtu.be/9IrWyZ0KZuk

https://youtu.be/3l0BLog1rQY

Also blues but

https://youtu.be/G3LvhdFEOqs

I like bass (I only have a bass left anyway);

https://youtu.be/w_8NtbKsYuA

https://youtu.be/Kyw-Lere8Kc (did not watch this but any Steve Harris)

and drums

https://youtu.be/nC0QUrya3eA

https://youtu.be/LQqNJwa5lig

Like said my definition is surely different than yours. And a lot of it is taste.

Re: The slow death of the electric guitar

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Post by [deleted] »

d--b wrote: post #27

I think it's a bit naive to believe that guitar heroes can bring the interest for the guitar back. People look back at the guitar heroes time with a nostalgic fondness for a time that doesn't exist anymore. This was already visible in Wayne's world and became more than obvious in school of rock. Guitar-heavy rock has become a geek genre. Pop has moved on. There are obviously various reasons for this: 1. Technological…

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Re: The slow death of the electric guitar

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Post by meggar »

bigtunacan wrote: post #71
cyberferret wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genuine question: Has your son seen Mayer play? Either on TV or in a live situation? I remember my son being entranced when I brought home the "Where The Light Is" DVD and put it on to watch it myself. He happened to be in the room, and was hooked from the opening song to the last. Not saying that will be the case in every instance, but I do remember the actual video that got BOTH my sons into music was an "AC/DC Liv…

I also saw AC/DC during the Black Ice tour. I've been to many concerts, but never seen anyone else live who could play the guitar like Angus Young. He truly is an amazing guitarist.

Angus rocks, and is underrated even by guitar players. But I would submit that Greg Howe is like one level above Angus.

Re: The slow death of the electric guitar

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Post by rwmj »

Put simply, guitars have a terrible user interface. I have "taught" Korg Kaossilator to a dozen people and they have all picked it up and started making not-terrible electronic dance music within an hour of first using it.

Edit: Maybe explain why I'm supposedly wrong instead of downvoting?

Re: The slow death of the electric guitar

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Post by jacquesm »

agumonkey wrote: post #89

Allan Holdsworth, one of the most innovative guitar player passed not long ago. If you feel like discovering a new way around an instrument, and even music in general, and are not repelled by 70s/80s synth feel, enjoy youtubing his name. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXSd-WyrtfA The man was an extraordinary among extraordinaries. The guitarit's guitarist as they say. Beside music, the notion of culture itself chang…

Oh that sucks, I totally missed that. :(

I especially love the work that he did with Jean Luc Ponty, and UK's Rendez-Vous 6:02.

Re: The slow death of the electric guitar

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Post by grondilu »

johan_larson wrote: post #41
d--b wrote: post #27

I think it's a bit naive to believe that guitar heroes can bring the interest for the guitar back. People look back at the guitar heroes time with a nostalgic fondness for a time that doesn't exist anymore. This was already visible in Wayne's world and became more than obvious in school of rock. Guitar-heavy rock has become a geek genre. Pop has moved on. There are obviously various reasons for this: 1. Technological…

The electric guitar is now what the saxophone was in the fifties: the iconic instrument of the hottest music of dad's generation.

That may be an accurate comparison.
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