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A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by majkinetor »

haburka wrote: post #15

I mean obviously sugar is not toxic. I think most people that do low sugar and no sugar diets are aware of that. Instead, they understand that there's way too much sugar out there and it is very addictive. That's the issue with this kind of anti-homeopathy reasoning, it's mostly just an attack on non-scientists who have their own theories and claims. However, science has a lot of gaps, especially when it comes to nut…

I mean, its obvious that sugar is toxic, as anything is. The toxicity is in the dose. So context matters.

Sugar IS toxic if it hangs out in the blood too long, with adequately high levels. It produces all sorts of bad effects - from AGEs to diminished vitamin C uptake (and thus immunity). Sugar is uniquely toxic to teeth, there is nobody that will argue that.

This ... angry chef ... doesn't actually provide anything but confusion. I highly recommend you to avoid it and do your own reasearch.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by majkinetor »

appleshore wrote: post #16

The traditional dismissal of detoxes is that your body naturally detoxes itself. If it was full of toxins, you'd be sick. Can anyone parse that with those who get mercury toxicity from eating too much sushi? And how is sugar an important building block of life? I'm presume he means calories are important, and he's not referring to glycobiology.

Toxicity, when fat starts to burn down, is well known phenomena in medicine. You can be poisoned and toxins can be 'stored' in fat for years, depending on their type, then one day when you start melting that you start to experience symptoms.

> And how is sugar an important building block of life?

Not very much, since there is no such thing as sugar deficiency and liver can make its own via gluconeogenesis. Unless you have impaired liver or are starving, sugar probably has little value.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by intromatt »

revscat wrote: post #7

My anecdotal experience is that I have lost ~15 pounds since I started keto a month ago, with no change to exercise habits. He may have a strong opinion, but I am not sure how based in science it is.

You reduced your caloric intake. That's wonderful.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by flohofwoe »

revscat wrote: post #7

My anecdotal experience is that I have lost ~15 pounds since I started keto a month ago, with no change to exercise habits. He may have a strong opinion, but I am not sure how based in science it is.

Well, I lost weight by eating a junk-food-chain hamburger each day for a few weeks (it was an experiment, and I didn't get the fries and cola, only the hamburger). In the meantime my food intake has become a bit more varied, but ideology-free ;)

It's all about calorie intake and consumption really.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by benchaney »

throwaway91111 wrote: post #25
emodendroket wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, nothing wakes you up in the morning like a Coca-Cola.

Calories aren't directly related to arousal to my knowledge, aside from needing to feed ones self. My point being: you're ignoring obvious benefits by hyperbolizing having a piece of toast to put something in your stomach before leaving the house.

Your previous post makes it sound like you are consuming a significant amount of sugar in the morning, so i don't really think GP is hyperbole.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by tluyben2 »

revscat wrote: post #7

My anecdotal experience is that I have lost ~15 pounds since I started keto a month ago, with no change to exercise habits. He may have a strong opinion, but I am not sure how based in science it is.

Sure that works. I lost 10 kg only drinking beer (2-3 months because everyone said beer was the fat cause which it is not; it is a combination); losing weight is hard but not if you have the power to cut something out you normally do eat.

Just do not eat as much. I eat half a pizza instead of a whole one (If I do what my mind wants I eat 3-4 napolitana pizzas in a go; I eat half of one now), drink less etc and it works. Unfortunately I love food so on culinary trips the flesh is weak, but I lose it quickly by eating varied and little.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by emodendroket »

taneq wrote: post #26
emodendroket wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's dismaying about weight loss isn't that people can't manage to lose weight but that the success rates in keeping it off over the longer term (5 or 10 years) are extremely bad for just about every method except stomach stapling.

That's thanks (IMO) to the existence of a huge industry dedicated to convincing people that "a diet" is a temporary change in what you eat, after which you can once again throw restraint to the wind.

I don't think so. Your body works hard to maintain stasis.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by watwut »

emodendroket wrote: post #11
devoply wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2098199-lets-ditch-the-... Apparently it's a thing, and just shows this whole line of thought has sort of jumped the shark...

> It found that home-made meals based on 408 bestselling cookbook recipes for infants and young children are not always healthier than ready meals and convenience products. In fact, on many measures they seemed less healthy: they tended to have a lower vegetable variety per meal and were more likely to exceed maximum recommendations for energy and fat content. Is that representative of what the average person cooks?

Cookbooks are probably not representative of actual cooking, but it is hard to judge whether average cooking is healthier. It is impossible to judge how much less healthy it would be if people who are cool not cooking for children switched to cooking.

It is good point through, not everything that comes in can is bad for you.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by ricardobeat »

tluyben2 wrote: post #36
revscat wrote: post #7

My anecdotal experience is that I have lost ~15 pounds since I started keto a month ago, with no change to exercise habits. He may have a strong opinion, but I am not sure how based in science it is.

Sure that works. I lost 10 kg only drinking beer (2-3 months because everyone said beer was the fat cause which it is not; it is a combination); losing weight is hard but not if you have the power to cut something out you normally do eat. Just do not eat as much. I eat half a pizza instead of a whole one (If I do what my mind wants I eat 3-4 napolitana pizzas in a go; I eat half of one now), drink less etc and it wor…

That's missing the point. You don't starve on a low carb diet.
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