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A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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My anecdotal experience is that I have lost ~15 pounds since I started keto a month ago, with no change to exercise habits. He may have a strong opinion, but I am not sure how based in science it is.

That's exactly his point. There is no scientific evidence that this happens systemically, i.e. "Keto will lead to weight loss". That does not mean it does not or that you can't lose weight. There's just no evidence.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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I mean obviously sugar is not toxic. I think most people that do low sugar and no sugar diets are aware of that. Instead, they understand that there's way too much sugar out there and it is very addictive. That's the issue with this kind of anti-homeopathy reasoning, it's mostly just an attack on non-scientists who have their own theories and claims. However, science has a lot of gaps, especially when it comes to nut…

Science has gaps because scientist do not know things. Non-scientist going "based on what happened to my cousin, this must have been what happened" is not going to fill the gaps in knowledge.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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post #3

Aren't keto diets about making you more satiated and not about nutrition? I thought I've read that people have done a better job losing weight on such diets.

Most anything I've read most people's "stats" (cholesterol, blood pressure) improve once on a keto diet.

Where did you read that? How many were in the sample, how long was the diet, was it a double-blind test, what was the significance of the find? That's exactly his point: people write a lot of stuff on the internet that they believe or think is true. It might even work on them because of placebo efect. But it does mean these statements are facts.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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post #3

Aren't keto diets about making you more satiated and not about nutrition? I thought I've read that people have done a better job losing weight on such diets.

Most anything I've read most people's "stats" (cholesterol, blood pressure) improve once on a keto diet.

I lost ~60 lbs on a keto diet, but every stat was unsafe, and I felt awful in ways I'd never felt before.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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And yet, i still need quick calories to catch a bus in the morning. Amazing!

Yeah, nothing wakes you up in the morning like a Coca-Cola.

Calories aren't directly related to arousal to my knowledge, aside from needing to feed ones self.

My point being: you're ignoring obvious benefits by hyperbolizing having a piece of toast to put something in your stomach before leaving the house.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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post #7

My anecdotal experience is that I have lost ~15 pounds since I started keto a month ago, with no change to exercise habits. He may have a strong opinion, but I am not sure how based in science it is.

What's dismaying about weight loss isn't that people can't manage to lose weight but that the success rates in keeping it off over the longer term (5 or 10 years) are extremely bad for just about every method except stomach stapling.

That's thanks (IMO) to the existence of a huge industry dedicated to convincing people that "a diet" is a temporary change in what you eat, after which you can once again throw restraint to the wind.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's dismaying about weight loss isn't that people can't manage to lose weight but that the success rates in keeping it off over the longer term (5 or 10 years) are extremely bad for just about every method except stomach stapling.

That's thanks (IMO) to the existence of a huge industry dedicated to convincing people that "a diet" is a temporary change in what you eat, after which you can once again throw restraint to the wind.

Not only that. Many diets are not sustainable - you can't keep them long term and perform well enough on work. They work by keeping you with low energy which affects your performance. Plus you are miserable practicaly constantly while keeping them.

The other reason is that they alter how your body works - meaning it is much easier to gain weight after dieting then before. You body adjusts to hunger by making fat reserves asap.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's dismaying about weight loss isn't that people can't manage to lose weight but that the success rates in keeping it off over the longer term (5 or 10 years) are extremely bad for just about every method except stomach stapling.

That's thanks (IMO) to the existence of a huge industry dedicated to convincing people that "a diet" is a temporary change in what you eat, after which you can once again throw restraint to the wind.

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Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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post #22
post #15

I mean obviously sugar is not toxic. I think most people that do low sugar and no sugar diets are aware of that. Instead, they understand that there's way too much sugar out there and it is very addictive. That's the issue with this kind of anti-homeopathy reasoning, it's mostly just an attack on non-scientists who have their own theories and claims. However, science has a lot of gaps, especially when it comes to nut…

Science has gaps because scientist do not know things. Non-scientist going "based on what happened to my cousin, this must have been what happened" is not going to fill the gaps in knowledge.

That strikes me as obviously untrue.

For example, we might now have the 'scientific knowledge' to explain why a particular mushroom is poisonous, but it probably started with a 'avoid it because your cousin died eating that one', followed by the observation that this happened to multiple cousins, followed by some kind of proto-scientific experimentation. None of this might qualify as 'scientists' doing 'science' by our standards, but it's still knowledge.

That doesn't necessarily mean homeopathy should be taken seriously at this point though.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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post #20
post #7

My anecdotal experience is that I have lost ~15 pounds since I started keto a month ago, with no change to exercise habits. He may have a strong opinion, but I am not sure how based in science it is.

That's exactly his point. There is no scientific evidence that this happens systemically, i.e. "Keto will lead to weight loss". That does not mean it does not or that you can't lose weight. There's just no evidence.

That is BS - there is so much evidence that I don't know where to start.
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