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A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by emodendroket »

devoply wrote: post #9
epx wrote: post #2

The guy lost me when linked home-cooked food with misogyny.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2098199-lets-ditch-the-... Apparently it's a thing, and just shows this whole line of thought has sort of jumped the shark...

> It found that home-made meals based on 408 bestselling cookbook recipes for infants and young children are not always healthier than ready meals and convenience products. In fact, on many measures they seemed less healthy: they tended to have a lower vegetable variety per meal and were more likely to exceed maximum recommendations for energy and fat content.

Is that representative of what the average person cooks?

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by emodendroket »

revscat wrote: post #7

My anecdotal experience is that I have lost ~15 pounds since I started keto a month ago, with no change to exercise habits. He may have a strong opinion, but I am not sure how based in science it is.

What's dismaying about weight loss isn't that people can't manage to lose weight but that the success rates in keeping it off over the longer term (5 or 10 years) are extremely bad for just about every method except stomach stapling.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by throwaway91111 »

emodendroket wrote: post #4
epx wrote: post #2

The guy lost me when linked home-cooked food with misogyny.

"Sugar is good, even though it's high in calories yet doesn't make you feel any fuller, because you need calories to live" seems like an odd claim too, given that we don't live in a society where most people are suffering from insufficient caloric intake.

And yet, i still need quick calories to catch a bus in the morning. Amazing!

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by emodendroket »

throwaway91111 wrote: post #13
emodendroket wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Sugar is good, even though it's high in calories yet doesn't make you feel any fuller, because you need calories to live" seems like an odd claim too, given that we don't live in a society where most people are suffering from insufficient caloric intake.

And yet, i still need quick calories to catch a bus in the morning. Amazing!

Yeah, nothing wakes you up in the morning like a Coca-Cola.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by haburka »

I mean obviously sugar is not toxic. I think most people that do low sugar and no sugar diets are aware of that. Instead, they understand that there's way too much sugar out there and it is very addictive. That's the issue with this kind of anti-homeopathy reasoning, it's mostly just an attack on non-scientists who have their own theories and claims. However, science has a lot of gaps, especially when it comes to nutrition. It's very hard to be precise with it.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by appleshore »

The traditional dismissal of detoxes is that your body naturally detoxes itself. If it was full of toxins, you'd be sick. Can anyone parse that with those who get mercury toxicity from eating too much sushi?

And how is sugar an important building block of life? I'm presume he means calories are important, and he's not referring to glycobiology.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by appleshore »

haburka wrote: post #15

I mean obviously sugar is not toxic. I think most people that do low sugar and no sugar diets are aware of that. Instead, they understand that there's way too much sugar out there and it is very addictive. That's the issue with this kind of anti-homeopathy reasoning, it's mostly just an attack on non-scientists who have their own theories and claims. However, science has a lot of gaps, especially when it comes to nut…

If you're on a low carb diet, sugar can give you a headache so in that way it does feel toxic. But is that just because your body isn't use to it?

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Post by belorn »

epx wrote: post #2

The guy lost me when linked home-cooked food with misogyny.

One of the biggest problem I had with that statement is how extremely unscientifically it was. Home cooking don't take a constant amount of time and vary based on what food you make and how many people there is in the household. Some people like me do once a month cooking where you dedicate almost a whole day per month, usually a day on the weekend. If you are a single person then you might not even need to cook that often.

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Post by bayonetz »

revscat wrote: post #7

My anecdotal experience is that I have lost ~15 pounds since I started keto a month ago, with no change to exercise habits. He may have a strong opinion, but I am not sure how based in science it is.

Congrats! Whatever works I say. The one issue, in my experience, is that usually it's just the act of paying attention to what you eat that makes the difference (and basically all diets help with this). I still think there is value in having choice in different diets and such, but hard to see how people can get so religious about any single one of them. You're not being religious or anything, just made me think of this common conflation is all.

Re: A chef who’s debunking detox, diets and wellness

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Post by akytt »

revscat wrote: post #7

My anecdotal experience is that I have lost ~15 pounds since I started keto a month ago, with no change to exercise habits. He may have a strong opinion, but I am not sure how based in science it is.

That's exactly his point. There is no scientific evidence that this happens systemically, i.e. "Keto will lead to weight loss". That does not mean it does not or that you can't lose weight. There's just no evidence.
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