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Re: Popular People Live Longer

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I have considered suicide for the past 30 years. I tried very hard to build a life in the confines of whatever limitations I've been given and/or created for myself. I determine that the nature of humanity is to seek power. This study reminds me of why this world is total bullshit. I've notified to be part of this world anymore. I'm connected into this universe more than I ever have been. There is a black hole awaiti…

I've mentioned this in a few comments, but Kratom is a substance that has given me a taste of what it's like to turn-off all the clutter in my head and see the world the way people without anxiety see it. It can be dangerous to do too much but it has given me a glimmer as to how "normal" people see things - and something to strive toward through meditation or exercise. You will never be able to turn off the anxious or depressed parts of your neurology and to be honest they really do dumb you/us (people like me) down but trying the substance has given me the contrast to realize life doesn't have to feel that way. The truth is there is no known "nature to humanity", you are simply assigning one. We live and then die. I have thought a lot about what "power" even "is" and when you break it down it's really just the ability to do something unique that others are willing to confer their attention or some other currency to and much of it is based on deeply ingrained assumptions, some of these assumptions are fluctuating and some are constant. If you are worried that humans just want to control everything and will eventually destroy the world you are probably right - but even if we didn't, the earth still won't last forever. One of the ways to deal with anxiety and depression is just to learn to let it go and be fascinated by the moment.

Re: Popular People Live Longer

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post #41
post #33

I have considered suicide for the past 30 years. I tried very hard to build a life in the confines of whatever limitations I've been given and/or created for myself. I determine that the nature of humanity is to seek power. This study reminds me of why this world is total bullshit. I've notified to be part of this world anymore. I'm connected into this universe more than I ever have been. There is a black hole awaiti…

I've mentioned this in a few comments, but Kratom is a substance that has given me a taste of what it's like to turn-off all the clutter in my head and see the world the way people without anxiety see it. It can be dangerous to do too much but it has given me a glimmer as to how "normal" people see things - and something to strive toward through meditation or exercise. You will never be able to turn off the anxious o…

> just use unregulated and untested drugs! that will fix your problems and totally won't put you in deeper shit!

I'm so sick of seeing this "advice" everywhere on the internet. I've seen it on Twitter, on Reddit, and now here. Don't recommend drugs to people if you're not a doctor.

Re: Popular People Live Longer

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post #33

I have considered suicide for the past 30 years. I tried very hard to build a life in the confines of whatever limitations I've been given and/or created for myself. I determine that the nature of humanity is to seek power. This study reminds me of why this world is total bullshit. I've notified to be part of this world anymore. I'm connected into this universe more than I ever have been. There is a black hole awaiti…

Please don't commit suicide. You and the world will both be worse off. If you need to talk to someone about it 1-800-273-8255 is available 24 hours a day.

why?

If I experienced a major life changing event, I'd commit suicide. I refuse to live in pain every day, or lose my independence.

It's a completely rational decision, you don't know their life.

Re: Popular People Live Longer

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've mentioned this in a few comments, but Kratom is a substance that has given me a taste of what it's like to turn-off all the clutter in my head and see the world the way people without anxiety see it. It can be dangerous to do too much but it has given me a glimmer as to how "normal" people see things - and something to strive toward through meditation or exercise. You will never be able to turn off the anxious o…

> just use unregulated and untested drugs! that will fix your problems and totally won't put you in deeper shit! I'm so sick of seeing this "advice" everywhere on the internet. I've seen it on Twitter, on Reddit, and now here. Don't recommend drugs to people if you're not a doctor.

Okay, I don't recommend them. I'll rephrase the post to say what I've done to help me. Does that make you happy?

Re: Popular People Live Longer

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post #33

I have considered suicide for the past 30 years. I tried very hard to build a life in the confines of whatever limitations I've been given and/or created for myself. I determine that the nature of humanity is to seek power. This study reminds me of why this world is total bullshit. I've notified to be part of this world anymore. I'm connected into this universe more than I ever have been. There is a black hole awaiti…

You mean humanity, not the world (earth). You could always walk away into the wilderness and just live amongst animals.

Re: Popular People Live Longer

#46
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> just use unregulated and untested drugs! that will fix your problems and totally won't put you in deeper shit! I'm so sick of seeing this "advice" everywhere on the internet. I've seen it on Twitter, on Reddit, and now here. Don't recommend drugs to people if you're not a doctor.

Okay, I don't recommend them. I'll rephrase the post to say what I've done to help me. Does that make you happy?

No, not really. The recommendation moves from explicit to implicit.

It's good that the drugs helped you, but it's not the same thing as saying "I went to a doctor and they put me on X and it helped." When you're talking about doing drugs outside of that paradigm, we don't know how many people have been hurt rather than helped. If 9 out of 10 people are harmed, you were just the lucky one.

Re: Popular People Live Longer

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't commit suicide. You and the world will both be worse off. If you need to talk to someone about it 1-800-273-8255 is available 24 hours a day.

why? If I experienced a major life changing event, I'd commit suicide. I refuse to live in pain every day, or lose my independence. It's a completely rational decision, you don't know their life.

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Re: Popular People Live Longer

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I've found human lives to consist in significant part of feedback loops. Positive feedback loops, and negative feedback loops. A person receiving positive feedback tends to feel better, be more socially comfortable and engaging, and to receive resources that help them on their journey. This response and that assistance actually helps them become better. Better nutrition, more attentive and patient instruction. Etc. I…

I would like to paste this comment everywhere the causality of depression is discussed.

Re: Popular People Live Longer

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, I don't recommend them. I'll rephrase the post to say what I've done to help me. Does that make you happy?

No, not really. The recommendation moves from explicit to implicit. It's good that the drugs helped you, but it's not the same thing as saying "I went to a doctor and they put me on X and it helped." When you're talking about doing drugs outside of that paradigm, we don't know how many people have been hurt rather than helped. If 9 out of 10 people are harmed, you were just the lucky one.

I'm directing my post to someone who is at least forty years old. I think they can make up their own mind.

Re: Popular People Live Longer

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post #33

I have considered suicide for the past 30 years. I tried very hard to build a life in the confines of whatever limitations I've been given and/or created for myself. I determine that the nature of humanity is to seek power. This study reminds me of why this world is total bullshit. I've notified to be part of this world anymore. I'm connected into this universe more than I ever have been. There is a black hole awaiti…

Know that somewhere, probably close by, another person is struggling with you. The end waits patiently for us all my friend. Keep trudging.
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