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I havent looked at OVH lately, but are they really a cloud? Do they provide full VPC with central firewall? Dynamic network disk storage that can be mapped to servers?
How does EBS work, anyway? Is it some form of NFS with caching under the hood?
Pricing is yet another area where Google Compute Engine is superior. Automatic sustained use discounts[1], the ability to commit long term to a certain amount of cpus and memory and get a discount without any upfront cost[2]. Extended memory[3], basically you can craft a VM instance of any size. Need just 1 cpu but 32 GB of memory, no problem. AWS on the other hand... A labyrinth of pricing tables, spot instances, EB…
Google Cloud maybe is superior in the pricing of compute, but it is actually more expensive on network egress traffic, object storage and block storage. I recently created a simple tool ( http://theprice.cloud/ ) to compare egress traffic, object storage, and block storage cost among AWS, Google Cloud and Azure. It seems like Googel Cloud is the most expensive one in egress traffic and object storage.
Ingress Free
Egress inner-zone Free
Egress cross-zone in the same region $0.01
Egress cross-region within the US $0.01
Pricing is yet another area where Google Compute Engine is superior. Automatic sustained use discounts[1], the ability to commit long term to a certain amount of cpus and memory and get a discount without any upfront cost[2]. Extended memory[3], basically you can craft a VM instance of any size. Need just 1 cpu but 32 GB of memory, no problem. AWS on the other hand... A labyrinth of pricing tables, spot instances, EB…
Google Cloud maybe is superior in the pricing of compute, but it is actually more expensive on network egress traffic, object storage and block storage. I recently created a simple tool ( http://theprice.cloud/ ) to compare egress traffic, object storage, and block storage cost among AWS, Google Cloud and Azure. It seems like Googel Cloud is the most expensive one in egress traffic and object storage.
Your site seems to be hugged to death (so I can't see it), but there are lots of gotchas with S3 pricing (like rounding up file sizes with Infrequent Access and Glacier) that in our experience means our customers come out ahead. Glacier and Coldline also aren't really comparable in the sense that GCS always responds within milliseconds. We only economics to discourage frequent access from Coldline, not delays. As above, our egress is more expensive because it's better (we hear you though if your response is "I don't care! Give me cheaper instead, then!").
Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud.
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Google Cloud maybe is superior in the pricing of compute, but it is actually more expensive on network egress traffic, object storage and block storage. I recently created a simple tool ( http://theprice.cloud/ ) to compare egress traffic, object storage, and block storage cost among AWS, Google Cloud and Azure. It seems like Googel Cloud is the most expensive one in egress traffic and object storage.
Our egress pricing (from all sources) is certainly higher because we operate a private backbone rather than just dumping your packets straight onto the internet. Your site seems to be hugged to death (so I can't see it), but there are lots of gotchas with S3 pricing (like rounding up file sizes with Infrequent Access and Glacier) that in our experience means our customers come out ahead. Glacier and Coldline also are…
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Google Cloud maybe is superior in the pricing of compute, but it is actually more expensive on network egress traffic, object storage and block storage. I recently created a simple tool ( http://theprice.cloud/ ) to compare egress traffic, object storage, and block storage cost among AWS, Google Cloud and Azure. It seems like Googel Cloud is the most expensive one in egress traffic and object storage.
Except that Google Cloud cross zone and cross region (US) prices are much less than AWS. Ingress Free Egress inner-zone Free Egress cross-zone in the same region $0.01 Egress cross-region within the US $0.01 See: https://blog.elasticbyte.net/comparing-bandwidth-prices-and-...
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How does EBS work, anyway? Is it some form of NFS with caching under the hood?
It's not NFS, it's a block storage mechanism. NFS presents a file-based interface, EBS is a block/device-based interface. The underlying implementation isn't widely publicized, but if you think about how a block device works on a Unix and the AWS bigger-is-faster model for non-PIOPS EBS, you can probably draw some reasonable inferences.
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Our egress pricing (from all sources) is certainly higher because we operate a private backbone rather than just dumping your packets straight onto the internet. Your site seems to be hugged to death (so I can't see it), but there are lots of gotchas with S3 pricing (like rounding up file sizes with Infrequent Access and Glacier) that in our experience means our customers come out ahead. Glacier and Coldline also are…
AWS also has their own backbone. Starting at about 7 min: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqPfQgatMko
Here's what it means for you in practice:
- Google's Load Balancer supports a single global anycast endpoint.
- When your packet tries to hit Google network, it hits the nearest POP, which acts as an on-ramp to the network and traverses only Google network, not touching public.
- Similarly, when data is en route to a customer, Google network will take it all the way to the nearest DC or POP on its private backbone.
- Google by default gives you a global software-defined VPC. No need to create VPN tunnels between zones/regions/etc.
(work at G)
[0] https://peering.google.com/#/infrastructure
[1] https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2017/02/inside-Cloud-Sp...
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Except that Google Cloud cross zone and cross region (US) prices are much less than AWS. Ingress Free Egress inner-zone Free Egress cross-zone in the same region $0.01 Egress cross-region within the US $0.01 See: https://blog.elasticbyte.net/comparing-bandwidth-prices-and-...
They seem pretty comparable to me? Cross-region is $0.02, inner-zone is free, and cross-zone is free or $0.01. https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/on-demand/
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It's not NFS, it's a block storage mechanism. NFS presents a file-based interface, EBS is a block/device-based interface. The underlying implementation isn't widely publicized, but if you think about how a block device works on a Unix and the AWS bigger-is-faster model for non-PIOPS EBS, you can probably draw some reasonable inferences.
PIOPS?
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How does EBS work, anyway? Is it some form of NFS with caching under the hood?
IIRC EBS is based on GNBD.
> For example, in at least some embodiments, a representative logical local block data storage device may be made available to an executing program via use of GNBD (“Global Network Block Device”) technology.