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Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads

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Re: Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads

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I would rather pay and do not share anything with Google (or for that matter all of Google's partners who can purchase our data)

There are many options to pay for email, fastmail just for one. Do you use one of them?

And how exactly will I escape Google's data collection when Fastmail uses GA for analytics?

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Re: Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads

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Google isn't just an e-mail service, really.

But… you don’t really have to use Gmail to use most of Google’s other products, just as you don’t really have to use (actively) Google+ to use other Google products either.

Unfortunately no. You are going to be tracked whereever you go and it has GA. The reason why Google can stop reading your emails is because they have a global network now that can track you better.

Re: Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads

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I know I shouldn't be surprised, but it seems weird that the reporter nor any of the 140+ comments so far seemingly don't mention the recently published proposal for a new ePrivacy directive in the EU that will make it a lot harder for Google to scan e-mails in the first place.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-privacy-idUSKBN14U1FL https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jan/10/whatsapp-... http://www.kemplittle.com/site/articles/kl_bytes/the-draft-e...

Re: Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads

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How do you know? That's the problem with closed source software, and software that runs in someone else's computer. You have no idea what it does. You aren't in control. Someone else is deciding what code runs on your computer. That's a problem.

Big companies can't hide this stuff forever, you can eventually figure out, it is just better business-wise for them to just state they read your emails for ads, it can cost them a lot if they don't, plus most people don't really care. A few weeks ago a friend and I were talking exclusively through WhatsApp about a trip to London(in Portuguese with our very unusual jargon), I didn't do any search for anything related…

WhatsApp doesn't read your conversations for ads because it can't. Message content is end-to-end encrypted. You must have leaked your plans through some other medium inadvertently.

Re: Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads

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post #152
post #125

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Actually RF shielding paint is very poor. Manufacturers advertise them with "99.5 %" or so, which equates a measly 20 dB. Additionally, correctly applying these is quite difficult, and incorrect application greatly diminishes the shielding. (You also need to cover everything, including ceiling and floor, not just the walls). Even when correctly applied, the attenuation is so weak, a cell phone will still work. Shield…

> RF dead chambers are bloody expensive for a reason: you can't emulate them by pasting some paint on a wall. Couldn't you just stick yourself in a metal box (with a metal door that is careful to get a good seal)?

Well yeah, that's what those chambers are. Except it's a bit more complicated to do than "just" :)

Re: Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads

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The spam filter is for my benefit, but scanning for ad keywords is designed to benefit someone else, not me.

To play Devil's advocate, the ads benefit you because they make Gmail free.

What about people not using gmail but sending email to a gmail users? Those don't gain anything here.

I actually host my own email but every time I send a message to somebody using one of these webmails it gets indexed and monetized.

But I would argue that it's a technical problem first and foremost, email security is mostly a joke. If I need to send sensitive things through emails I can always use PGP to actually protect it, instead of relying on the goodwill of the email provider not to peek into the message. If people really valued their privacy they'd be doing something similar.

Re: Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads

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post #76

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Ads benefit both you and the other group that they connect you. You finding out about, say, a product you are interested benefits you.

What if you're buddhist?

There are many flavors of Buddhism, which one matters here for the point you are making?

EDIT - I am not sure why I am being downvote, I legitimately don't get his point and figured I would for more info rather than just calling him out as a troll or something. Is there something obvious I should know?

Re: Google Will Stop Reading Your Emails for Gmail Ads

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post #125

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Actually, you can buy some paint that blocks all RF signals. It's absurdly expensive but quite effective. There aren't many ways to get signals out of a room painted with the stuff. If you're thinking "Why not just build a faraday cage?" then you're thinking the right thing.

Actually RF shielding paint is very poor. Manufacturers advertise them with "99.5 %" or so, which equates a measly 20 dB. Additionally, correctly applying these is quite difficult, and incorrect application greatly diminishes the shielding. (You also need to cover everything, including ceiling and floor, not just the walls). Even when correctly applied, the attenuation is so weak, a cell phone will still work. Shield…

One of my first jobs was building shielded boxes for a sensitive RF measurement setup. Containing the RF output from something like a laptop is hard. I lined the inside of the boxes with copper beryllium mesh (attached with glue, since nails become little antennas), soldered all the joints to ensure electrical continuity, and put a copper beryllium gasket all around the lid to make sure there was continuity when the box was closed.
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