6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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Post by philip1209 » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 6:19 PM UTC

6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment
observer.com

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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Post by _m8fo » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 6:28 PM UTC

In these situations how are things actually proved? Is it just a "he said, she said" situation? In any case, it's a bold move to go on record, though I'm curious what difference it actually makes.

EDIT: Ah, it seems going on record is necessary to actually bring charges to someone.

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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Post by asdfologist » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 6:30 PM UTC

_m8fo wrote: post #2

In these situations how are things actually proved? Is it just a "he said, she said" situation? In any case, it's a bold move to go on record, though I'm curious what difference it actually makes. EDIT: Ah, it seems going on record is necessary to actually bring charges to someone.

The second paragraph said he sent texts. Texts can be verified.

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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Post by drewrv » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 6:31 PM UTC

_m8fo wrote: post #2

In these situations how are things actually proved? Is it just a "he said, she said" situation? In any case, it's a bold move to go on record, though I'm curious what difference it actually makes. EDIT: Ah, it seems going on record is necessary to actually bring charges to someone.

In this case it's more of a "he said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said".

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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Post by _m8fo » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 6:31 PM UTC

asdfologist wrote: post #3

_m8fo wrote: post #2

In these situations how are things actually proved? Is it just a "he said, she said" situation? In any case, it's a bold move to go on record, though I'm curious what difference it actually makes. EDIT: Ah, it seems going on record is necessary to actually bring charges to someone.

The second paragraph said he sent texts. Texts can be verified.

Are texts really an example of "sexual assault?" My understanding was that sexual assault had to be physical, though I may (probably) be wrong.

EDIT: Thanks for the clarification, all. As many have pointed out, there's also the harassment portion. I guess my question is now: how do you prove intent? I know nothing about due process, so I'm curious. I suppose in this case it really matters what it says in the texts.

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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Post by philip1209 » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 6:32 PM UTC

_m8fo wrote: post #2

In these situations how are things actually proved? Is it just a "he said, she said" situation? In any case, it's a bold move to go on record, though I'm curious what difference it actually makes. EDIT: Ah, it seems going on record is necessary to actually bring charges to someone.

This article seems to indicate that multiple journalists were investigating these allegations, but couldn't go to press without sources:

https://www.axios.com/pro-rata-2446752020.html

One journalist got six sources, three on the record, and claims to have verified parts of the stories (such as reviewing message history on phones), which led him to have the confidence to go to press.

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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Post by radicalbyte » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 6:33 PM UTC

One of the girls interviewed on Startup Podcast mentioned that a VC propositioned her; like these girls she was Asian. I wonder if this guy is the same alleged pervert?

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 6:33 PM UTC

_m8fo wrote: post #2

In these situations how are things actually proved? Is it just a "he said, she said" situation? In any case, it's a bold move to go on record, though I'm curious what difference it actually makes. EDIT: Ah, it seems going on record is necessary to actually bring charges to someone.

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Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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Post by _RPM » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 6:35 PM UTC

radicalbyte wrote: post #7

One of the girls interviewed on Startup Podcast mentioned that a VC propositioned her; like these girls she was Asian. I wonder if this guy is the same alleged pervert?

All of his victims are Asian in this case.

Re: 6 Women Accuse Tech VC Justin Caldbeck of Sexual Assault and Harassment

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Post by vkou » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 6:37 PM UTC

_m8fo wrote: post #5

asdfologist wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The second paragraph said he sent texts. Texts can be verified.

Are texts really an example of "sexual assault?" My understanding was that sexual assault had to be physical, though I may (probably) be wrong. EDIT: Thanks for the clarification, all. As many have pointed out, there's also the harassment portion. I guess my question is now: how do you prove intent? I know nothing about due process, so I'm curious. I suppose in this case it really matters what it says in the texts.

The texts are trivially verifiable proof of harassment, AFAIK, there is no trivially verifiable proof for the assault.