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To Stay in Love, Sign on the Dotted Line

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>We spent weeks anxiously enumerating the pros and cons of cohabitation. The older I get, the more I come around to the conclusion that thought is bad.

Which part of it is bad, thinking about cohabitation, or cohabitation itself?

Oh, now I see how my sentence was ambiguous.

The "anxiously enumerating pros and cons part" is bad. Cohabitation is fine.

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I don't get it. The title of the article is "To Stay in Love, Sign on the Dotted Line," but there's absolutely nothing in it that supports the title. All it is is about an unmarried woman whose been in a relationship for only 3 years saying a scheduled conversations and paper an pen (or keyboard in this case) helps her have relationship communication. The title should really be "communication is helpful for my new re…

It's also a reference to the author's article, To Fall in Love, Do This [0] which I remember as being extremely popular and shared all over social media when it was published.

[0] https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/fashion/modern-love-to-fa...

Re: To Stay in Love, Sign on the Dotted Line

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Better title: "To stay in love, communicate honestly and openly" | these guys just happened to find a way to do that in writing

In my experience, writing things down brings additional insight, more than an accident.

When I first heard Leslie Lamport say “If you think without writing, you only think you’re thinking.”, I thought it was a bit much, but now I suspect he's right.

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>We spent weeks anxiously enumerating the pros and cons of cohabitation. The older I get, the more I come around to the conclusion that thought is bad.

The older I get, the wiser the conclusions of Vonnegut's Galapagos seem.

Shamelessly stealing from Goodreads, which shamelessly stole from the book itself:

“Just about every adult human being back then had a brain weighing about three kilogrammes! There was no end to the evil schemes that a thought machine that oversized couldn't imagine and execute. So I raise this question, although there is nobody around to answer it: Can it be doubted that three-kilogramme brains were once nearly fatal defects in the evolution of the human race?”

“Thanks to their decreased brainpower, people aren't diverted from the main business of life by the hobgoblins of opinion anymore.”

“That was another thing people used to be able to do, which they can't do anymore: enjoy in their heads events which hadn't happened yet and might never occur. My mother was good at that. Someday my father would stop writing science fiction, and write something a whole lot of people wanted to read instead. And we would get a new house in a beautiful city, and nice clothes, and so on. She used to make me wonder why God had ever gone to all the trouble of creating reality."

And perhaps most appropriately for this thread:

“What made marriage so difficult back then was yet again that instigator of so many other sorts of heartbreak: the oversize brain. That cumbersome computer could hold so many contradictory opinions on so many different subjects all at once, and switch from one opinion or subject to another one so quickly, that a discussion between a husband and wife under stress could end up like a fight between blindfolded people wearing roller skates.”

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Intimidated by divorce statistics (a $50 billion industry in the US alone, 30-50% chance, etc.) and by a spate of divorces among my friends whose weddings I attended, Stephanie and I decided to do a domestic partnership. So far so good.

If you've ever seen anyone go through a nasty drawn out expensive divorce you'd be even more shy about it.

The divorce industry profits wildly off of emotional turmoil, it's sick to observe.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which part of it is bad, thinking about cohabitation, or cohabitation itself?

Oh, now I see how my sentence was ambiguous. The "anxiously enumerating pros and cons part" is bad. Cohabitation is fine.

Why is that?

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Intimidated by divorce statistics (a $50 billion industry in the US alone, 30-50% chance, etc.) and by a spate of divorces among my friends whose weddings I attended, Stephanie and I decided to do a domestic partnership. So far so good.

What's a "domestic partnership?" Is it a legal term?

Yes. Ironically it was created as a "fallback position" to full-on marriage for non-straight people. For the sake of equality it had to apply to everyone of course, though. You get many of the rights of marriage such as mutual health coverage, visitation rights etc... But without all the cruft.

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Better title: "To stay in love, communicate honestly and openly" | these guys just happened to find a way to do that in writing

I have a deal with my SO, that, if at any time, I feel that either of us is too overcome by emotion to discuss something rationally, we get to say so, the other person gets to say their piece (without lecturing or railing) and then the discussion is tabled.

If either of us feel it is important, then it's up to them to bring it up at a later, calmer time. Otherwise, it wasn't actually that important.

This rule has saved us from all sorts of pointless strife.

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