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Iowa insurance market collapse could ground young entrepreneurs' dreams

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Re: Iowa insurance market collapse could ground young entrepreneurs' dreams

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Iowa has only one ACA insurer left and they are raising their rates 43.5%. Basically providing Obamacare was hemorrhaging so much money that Wellmark and BCBS left, leaving a single payer, that ACA users are forced to use. http://www.thegazette.com/subject/news/health/medica-to-stay...

Same thing happened in Phoenix last year. Our whole county was left with 1 ACA plan who raised rates too. Everyone is bailing.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/money/business/health/2016/09...

Re: Iowa insurance market collapse could ground young entrepreneurs' dreams

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Basically, do we want to send the signal that entrepreneurship is for everyone, or just the rich and healthy?

Entrepreneurship is not for everyone. It is for people who take risks. And yes it takes being healthy, because it is a stress which even most absolutely healthy and young people can't endure. And preferably rich because it sucks being left at the mercy of investors.

You're implying that the risk a young, healthy person takes is entirely within their control, but even a healthy person can get hit by a car or get injured in some way unrelated to their "fitness" level.

The reason we need to fix health care is simple: if you are dying or seriously injured, and you don't have health insurance, you are going to the ER regardless and someone, somewhere will end up paying for it. Let's all be adults about the situation and just implement something that works.

Re: Iowa insurance market collapse could ground young entrepreneurs' dreams

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Obamacare, the proposed trump care, its all a failure. Get rid of the employer sponsored plans, that makes no sense at all and makes me hesitant to lose my job because my health relies on it? That is simply absurd. Get rid of this. I'm so frustrated with the healthcare here and I don't understand how Washington can't come up with any real solutions

The issue is that the left wants single payer and the right wants tax cuts. Then there is the insurance lobby.

Premiums increases can be mitigated by reinsurance. The ultimate payer of that should be the Feds (as it is with almost all catastrophic cases e.g floods/earthquakes/landslides).

Re: Iowa insurance market collapse could ground young entrepreneurs' dreams

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This isn't just an Iowa issue. When I talk to early stage entrepreneurs looking to raise seed capital healthcare is almost always one of their biggest concerns - both for their own families as well as the impact it will have on recruiting the necessary talent.

PEOs help early stage companies to a certain extent, but for a pre-revenue company the cost of healthcare is almost always going to be a significant burden that funnels valuable cash away from the product and shortens the runway. But without a decent benefits package, start-ups have almost no hope of attracting key talent especially if those prospective employees have kids, so they (and their investors) are forced to just suck it up.

Healthcare in the US is a ticking time bomb with the potential to significantly impact our long term growth (if it isn't already). Unfortunately we're in a situation where for-profit insurance companies, for-profit health networks, and for-profit pharma companies are all fighting for their share of the pie while pushing increasing costs onto the average consumer. I wish I knew what the fix was - other than an unattainable single-payer system - but we need to find something and find it fast.

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post #8

Obamacare, the proposed trump care, its all a failure. Get rid of the employer sponsored plans, that makes no sense at all and makes me hesitant to lose my job because my health relies on it? That is simply absurd. Get rid of this. I'm so frustrated with the healthcare here and I don't understand how Washington can't come up with any real solutions

Single payer has been proposed many times and works well in the rest of the first world. Edit: Don't forget to vote every November.

It works so well in Australia that entire elections are basically predicated on who will protect it the best.

Re: Iowa insurance market collapse could ground young entrepreneurs' dreams

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Obamacare, the proposed trump care, its all a failure. Get rid of the employer sponsored plans, that makes no sense at all and makes me hesitant to lose my job because my health relies on it? That is simply absurd. Get rid of this. I'm so frustrated with the healthcare here and I don't understand how Washington can't come up with any real solutions

The reasons Washington can't come up with real solutions are simple: ideology and money.

A big chunk of Washington firmly believes that socialized medicine is evil, and they will fight it. It doesn't matter what the facts are, it's part of their identity at this point.

For the rest, the desires of insurance companies and similar get in the way. For example, the main, perhaps only reason the ACA didn't include a public option is because Joe Lieberman, Senator from a state where the health insurance industry is huge, refused to vote for a bill that included it and his vote was required for passage.

If lawmakers wanted to fix things, it would be easy: study the systems of other first-world countries and incorporate the things that work best into ours. But "something that works well" is way down on the list of priorities.

Re: Iowa insurance market collapse could ground young entrepreneurs' dreams

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post #8

Obamacare, the proposed trump care, its all a failure. Get rid of the employer sponsored plans, that makes no sense at all and makes me hesitant to lose my job because my health relies on it? That is simply absurd. Get rid of this. I'm so frustrated with the healthcare here and I don't understand how Washington can't come up with any real solutions

Single payer has been proposed many times and works well in the rest of the first world. Edit: Don't forget to vote every November.

Single payer works well in the US. Despite claims and the continuously driven narrative of government inefficiency and waste, Medicare and Medicaid are easily the most efficient and effective health care options in America.

It would take a one line act of congress...removing the income cap...to make America a defacto single payer state. The only problem is that it would disrupt a huge capitalist market, and our society has judged the protecting markets is more important than protecting people.

Re: Iowa insurance market collapse could ground young entrepreneurs' dreams

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post #8

Obamacare, the proposed trump care, its all a failure. Get rid of the employer sponsored plans, that makes no sense at all and makes me hesitant to lose my job because my health relies on it? That is simply absurd. Get rid of this. I'm so frustrated with the healthcare here and I don't understand how Washington can't come up with any real solutions

Single payer has been proposed many times and works well in the rest of the first world. Edit: Don't forget to vote every November.

What about drug R&D in those countries?

For all the issues of the US healthcare system, one thing it has going for it is most of the new developments in medicine comes from the US.

Re: Iowa insurance market collapse could ground young entrepreneurs' dreams

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I have an employer sponsored plan through the small business (25 employees) that I work for. The rates the company pays has gone up around 10% a year since I started working here. Two years ago, rates were going to go up 35% but the company found another insurance provider and (after polling employees) went with a higher deductible plan to keep the increas just under 20%.

This does not seem sustainable.

Re: Iowa insurance market collapse could ground young entrepreneurs' dreams

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The part in all of this that has bothered me more than anything is that it's a diversion to mask the real problem: healthcare service and products are unsustainably expensive.

Casinos use chips and vouchers to distract gamblers from actually grasping just how much money they're playing with. Health insurance sure feels like the same thing, but it's even worse in that when you're in need, you're not always in a state of mind to make rational choices nor are those choices even adequately defined prior to receiving a bill. Why is this acceptable? Since when are contracts entered into under duress admissible? I suspect it's probably a massive success on the part of lobbyists.

I don't know the solution, but I can confidently say it's probably not reached by tackling the insurance side of healthcare. Maybe the current system needs to collapse under its own weight before a new approach even stands a chance? Unfortunately, it's probably more likely it'd just receive a government bailout at taxpayers' expense so it could continue the status quo.

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