Why is the Internet so Slow?

Post by freeflight » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 3:28 PM UTC

grovegames wrote: post #83

exabrial wrote: post #73

Because every time we get faster connections, we download more the client and force more client side processing. Angular and friends are just causing a worse user experience, not a better one. We also don't take advantage of DNS enough. We should/could use it to pass along information about the client's ISP to locate a server one or two hops away from the client. DNS could easily solve the IPV4 with SRV records, but…

How is angular making the web slower. An angular project can sit somewhere in the 130kb range, with lighter frameworks like vue sitting at 30kb. These are smaller than most images or gifs used on the web. So the trade-off is one image on your page, or a robust RIA experience, with much more maintainable code. If you build it correctly, you're decreasing the amount of bytes on the wire significantly when using client…

Post by rkeene2 » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 3:39 PM UTC

wyager wrote: post #75

3pt14159 wrote: post #7

If you want an easy speed up and you use a modern version of nginx, which you should for many reasons but chiefly performance and security. Add these lines to your nginx config file: # Only support HTTPS and enable http2 # which will allow you to multiplex requests. # In a separate config do a 301 from normal HTTP # for all paths / subdomains. listen 443 ssl http2 default_server; listen [::]:443 ssl http2 default_ser…

> which you should for many reasons but chiefly performance and security. Why would you use nginx for security? I see over 100 CVEs for nginx. This isn't exactly unexpected. Nginx is an incredibly complicated piece of software written for performance in C. That's basically the trifecta of security badness. If you want security, why not use a (possibly slower) simpler product written in a safer language?

Post by DamonHD » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 3:44 PM UTC

jstanley wrote: post #45

3pt14159 wrote: post #7

If you want an easy speed up and you use a modern version of nginx, which you should for many reasons but chiefly performance and security. Add these lines to your nginx config file: # Only support HTTPS and enable http2 # which will allow you to multiplex requests. # In a separate config do a 301 from normal HTTP # for all paths / subdomains. listen 443 ssl http2 default_server; listen [::]:443 ssl http2 default_ser…

I just tried this and was unable to measure any difference. Variation in page load times far outweighed any difference the config change might have brought. So, YMMV. From a theoretical standpoint I agree http/2 should help (although in practice I didn't measure any difference). I can't see why tcp_nodelay would help except in extremely niche applications (sending tiny responses with lots of pauses?)

Post by pixl97 » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 3:48 PM UTC

amadvance wrote: post #43

moemoeg wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the context of the speed of light, it really isn't.

greydius corrected me asserting that the factor between ligth speed and car speed is 10 millions, and not one million as I said. But in true there are production cars that pass 430 km/h, resulting in a factor of about 2.5 millions. A lot less than 10 millions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Production_car_speed_record

Post by DamonHD » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 3:54 PM UTC

enthdegree wrote: post #58

IanKelling wrote: post #50

CDF = cumulative distribution function People who care about how fast the internet is are not the same set as people who know statistics acronyms, and they don't show up in a simple web search. You know how else we can make the internet better and faster? Publishing articles with software and licenses that make it easy for people to improve and share your article.

If you are unfamiliar with basic statistical concepts it is hard to believe you will be able to provide any compelling contributions to making the internet faster.