Job Interview for IT Pro: Guide for HR Managers
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Job Interview for IT Pro: Guide for HR Managers
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#2The IT department in my company seems to have HR people doing interviews with exactly these kinds of questions and consistently hiring a very specific type of people. Especially the architects and managers are very good at impressively "explaining" tech things to non tech people but they can't get anything real done. As soon as it gets detailed they have no clue. It feels like you are dealing with a group of actors who pretend to be tech savvy.
Re: Job Interview for IT Pro: Guide for HR Managers
#3The IT department in my company seems to have HR people doing interviews with exactly these kinds of questions and consistently hiring a very specific type of people. Especially the architects and managers are very good at impressively "explaining" tech things to non tech people but they can't get anything real done. As soon as it gets detailed they have no clue. It feels like you are dealing with a group of actors w…
> Especially the architects and managers are very good at impressively "explaining" tech things to non tech people
Isn't that exactly the job for those two positions?
Re: Job Interview for IT Pro: Guide for HR Managers
#4The IT department in my company seems to have HR people doing interviews with exactly these kinds of questions and consistently hiring a very specific type of people. Especially the architects and managers are very good at impressively "explaining" tech things to non tech people but they can't get anything real done. As soon as it gets detailed they have no clue. It feels like you are dealing with a group of actors w…
> Especially the architects and managers are very good at impressively "explaining" tech things to non tech people Isn't that exactly the job for those two positions?
It certainly is HALF of the job. But they can be good at this, and still suck at the other half, which is actually getting things done.
There's also similar case with guys whose positions are described as "evangelists" - some of those guys have been doing conference talks for so long that they cannot go past "hello world" stage for any technology that they claim to be experts in.
Re: Job Interview for IT Pro: Guide for HR Managers
#5The IT department in my company seems to have HR people doing interviews with exactly these kinds of questions and consistently hiring a very specific type of people. Especially the architects and managers are very good at impressively "explaining" tech things to non tech people but they can't get anything real done. As soon as it gets detailed they have no clue. It feels like you are dealing with a group of actors w…
When interviewing its immediately clear who is from IT and who is from HR. If HR outnumbers IT or IT isn't present at all, my interest in the job instantly declines to near zero. I wouldn't want to be on a team with people who can do well in an interview answering pedantic questions but can't perform in practice which is what you will end up with if HR does all the hiring.
Re: Job Interview for IT Pro: Guide for HR Managers
#6The IT department in my company seems to have HR people doing interviews with exactly these kinds of questions and consistently hiring a very specific type of people. Especially the architects and managers are very good at impressively "explaining" tech things to non tech people but they can't get anything real done. As soon as it gets detailed they have no clue. It feels like you are dealing with a group of actors w…
> Especially the architects and managers are very good at impressively "explaining" tech things to non tech people Isn't that exactly the job for those two positions?
"Isn't that exactly the job for those two positions? "
It's one part of the job. But they can't talk to tech people because they don't seem to know anything real.
Especially one guy sounds like he read a book "Enterprise Architecture for Dummies" and now he repeats words like "Integration patterns" but he can't give you a straight answer when you want details.
It's a really weird situation.
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#7Guessing candidates personality and look at life based on hobbies is perfect receipe for hiring based on various biases, prejudices and wrong guesses HR manager will make about hobbies he/she knows little about.
Savy candidate will pick a hobby that will make him look good anyway. (Don't mention metal or rap, don't mention you actually don't have one, don't mention stereotypically girly hobby, do mention reading and that single robot set you bought and build five years ago.)
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Especially the architects and managers are very good at impressively "explaining" tech things to non tech people Isn't that exactly the job for those two positions?
It certainly is HALF of the job. But they can be good at this, and still suck at the other half, which is actually getting things done. There's also similar case with guys whose positions are described as "evangelists" - some of those guys have been doing conference talks for so long that they cannot go past "hello world" stage for any technology that they claim to be experts in.
Yeah, evangelism is separate skill too. Good talkers and good coders are rarely the same (through it is certainly possie! )
Re: Job Interview for IT Pro: Guide for HR Managers
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Especially the architects and managers are very good at impressively "explaining" tech things to non tech people Isn't that exactly the job for those two positions?
"Isn't that exactly the job for those two positions? " It's one part of the job. But they can't talk to tech people because they don't seem to know anything real. Especially one guy sounds like he read a book "Enterprise Architecture for Dummies" and now he repeats words like "Integration patterns" but he can't give you a straight answer when you want details. It's a really weird situation.
Gotcha. Such people can do quite a lot of damage.
Re: Job Interview for IT Pro: Guide for HR Managers
#10Guessing candidates personality and look at life based on hobbies is perfect receipe for hiring based on various biases, prejudices and wrong guesses HR manager will make about hobbies he/she knows little about. Savy candidate will pick a hobby that will make him look good anyway. (Don't mention metal or rap, don't mention you actually don't have one, don't mention stereotypically girly hobby, do mention reading and…
Lying about these things is trivial to see through. One or two follow up questions and now the candidate is a likely liar. I'm definitely biased against liars.