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Re: Luna – Visual and textual functional programming language

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Post by the_cat_kittles »

reitanqild wrote: post #224
the_cat_kittles wrote: post #206

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well i can tell this is turning into the bad kind of internet commenting. you are calling me insecure- thats a personal attack. is it wrong to call someone a snob for being snobby?

is it wrong to call someone a snob for being snobby? I'm not a snob. I grew up on a small farm. I can milk the cows and have moved a few tons of grass by hand because the barn was to small for machinery. I still strongly dislike javascript. Maybe you could respect our right to hate or at least strongly dislike a language that 1. Is being forced upon us as the coolest thing since I don't know what 2. has quite complic…

ok i dont think snob has anything to do with upbringing, but yes- i dont really care for the tons of articles about new dumb frameworks etc, that would only be more annoying if i didnt use js. you are also allowed hate js. just kind of weird to parade around the internet proudly proclaiming it (not you, op)

Re: Luna – Visual and textual functional programming language

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Post by jamiek88 »

the_cat_kittles wrote: post #206
it_learnses wrote: post #203

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you deserve more public shaming than him. Sure he hates javascript and has valid reasons to do so. You, on the other hand are so insecure (probably because you've spent years using this language), that you have to make personal attacks.

well i can tell this is turning into the bad kind of internet commenting. you are calling me insecure- thats a personal attack. is it wrong to call someone a snob for being snobby?

The difference is the others are hating on a technology, not a person. You are insulting a person.

He didn't insult javascript developers or people who like it he simply said he doesn't like it, which for some reason got you personally insulted.

Hate is a word used in the modern world pejoratively to mean strongly dislike especially I've noticed those with English as a second language.

Re: Luna – Visual and textual functional programming language

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Post by m1sta_ »

wdanilo wrote: post #26

Hi guys! My name is Wojciech Danilo and I'm one of the founders of Luna. The timing for this news is a little unfortunate, because we are just before releasing Luna as an Open Source project! However, it's great time to answer some questions and give you a short update what has happened for the last couple months: 1. We've raised a seed round of $1M, so we can safely focus on product development and shortly on commun…

I'd love to see unit testing and/or contracts added too. Being able to define a graph, define a requirement for a step, and then outsource development of just that step could be awesome.

Re: Luna – Visual and textual functional programming language

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Post by wdanilo »

m1sta_ wrote: post #243
wdanilo wrote: post #26

Hi guys! My name is Wojciech Danilo and I'm one of the founders of Luna. The timing for this news is a little unfortunate, because we are just before releasing Luna as an Open Source project! However, it's great time to answer some questions and give you a short update what has happened for the last couple months: 1. We've raised a seed round of $1M, so we can safely focus on product development and shortly on commun…

I'd love to see unit testing and/or contracts added too. Being able to define a graph, define a requirement for a step, and then outsource development of just that step could be awesome.

This is on our roadmap after the release, but we kindly invite you to help us design and do it the best possible way! :)

Re: Luna – Visual and textual functional programming language

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Post by mastazi »

So in the past I have used two self-proclaimed "visual programming languages", Blueprints[1] and Max[2] and in both cases I found that it is actually harder to be productive while dealing with UI elements than it is to simply write code (as long as you have at least some rudimentary form of autocomplete I guess).

However I have to say that, based on the little I've seen, Luna's UI seems to be actually developer-friendly i.e. the UI elements go hand-in-hand with code rather than getting in the way, I think it's brilliant, sort of Jupyter Notebooks on steroids.

[1] https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Engine/Blueprints/

[2] https://cycling74.com/products/max

Re: Luna – Visual and textual functional programming language

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Post by crawfordcomeaux »

crawfordcomeaux wrote: post #150
shalabhc wrote: post #141

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But without giving access, how can you expect passion? :-) Let everyone check it out, the passionate ones will engage more through any channels you have (mailing lists, chat, twitter) and be easy to find, IMO.

I don't disagree with you, though don't necessarily agree, either because I don't know that passionate people are communicative people. I know many passionate people, myself included, who've been known to be rather introverted. After reading some of their comments & the copy on their homepage, the creators of Luna sound like they could be fairly mindful people. I'm betting they're seeking people who enshrine certain…

To be clear, I mean opening things up to everyone would be the next step after finding the community's seeds.

Re: Luna – Visual and textual functional programming language

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Post by nv-vn »

loup-vaillant wrote: post #226
the_cat_kittles wrote: post #183

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cool, i didnt want to hurt your feelings, just point out that you are a baseless snob

If I had to guess, I would point out that JavaScript was originally hacked out in 10 days, and features a number of unforgivable flaws, such as a non-transitive equality operator, weird implicit conversions, or just plain trying to make sense of quite obviously nonsensical operations. To someone used to the mathematical rigour of typed functional languages, this is not even worth looking at. As far as I know, the suc…

I don't think anyone ever expected it to become a success, let alone a language used on everything from text editors to terminal emulators to embedded devices.

Re: Luna – Visual and textual functional programming language

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Post by shalabhc »

wdanilo wrote: post #178
shalabhc wrote: post #171

Examples on the home page have broken indentation, or just a multi-level indentation that is confusing? class Point: x y z :: Int origin = Point 0 0 0 Point x y _ = origin print 'Origin XY coords are ($x,$y)' (Why is `origin =` indented at all?)

You are right, all the last 3 lines should be aligned max to the left. We'll fix that soon on new website!

Another thing, this example wouldn't type check unless it is verifiably a list of non blank strings:

    print [s for s in lst if s.head != '_']
The section about dependent typing says `lst.head` would be a compile time error in some cases.

Re: Luna – Visual and textual functional programming language

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Post by WillPostForFood »

the_cat_kittles wrote: post #240
danellis wrote: post #218

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> its so obvious that people are just looking for reasons to hate javascript Why would anyone have the motivation to do that? Either it has given them reasons to dislike it, or it hasn't. Why do you think anyone is predisposed to looking for those reasons?

its just a kind of hipster thing to do, to hate things. i did it with mysql and php. its like a way to show that you are cool.

Even worse though,is to have your personal identity tied up in the language you work in. If you are actually Brendan Eich, then I get you taking it personally, otherwise, who cares?

Re: Luna – Visual and textual functional programming language

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Post by jarym »

wdanilo wrote: post #26

Hi guys! My name is Wojciech Danilo and I'm one of the founders of Luna. The timing for this news is a little unfortunate, because we are just before releasing Luna as an Open Source project! However, it's great time to answer some questions and give you a short update what has happened for the last couple months: 1. We've raised a seed round of $1M, so we can safely focus on product development and shortly on commun…

Nice work, may want to update the copyright on the website - says 2016 still
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