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Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker

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Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker

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post #6

This reminds me actually a lot of Jiro Ono (famed sushi-maker). "Once you decide on your occupation, you must immerse yourself in your work. You have to fall in love with your work. Never complain about your job. You must dedicate your life to mastering your skill. That's the secret of success and is the key to being regarded honorably."

Sounds a lot like he was forcing himself to do the work in order to succeed and to be "regarded honorably".

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker

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post #6

This reminds me actually a lot of Jiro Ono (famed sushi-maker). "Once you decide on your occupation, you must immerse yourself in your work. You have to fall in love with your work. Never complain about your job. You must dedicate your life to mastering your skill. That's the secret of success and is the key to being regarded honorably."

Sounds a lot like he was forcing himself to do the work in order to succeed and to be "regarded honorably".

Do you interpret that as positive or negative?

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker

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post #2

It's great to see people like him and others like messersmiths such as Cut Brooklyn, swordsmakers, etc. continue the tradition of hand-made precision[1] products and doing it themselves rather than designing and then farming out the work to others or automating the process. It is, though, a kind of double edged sword. On the one hand they continue centuries-long traditions, on the other hand they get coöpted by hipst…

The watchmaker is selling his watches for between $45k and $250k and producing one a year on average so yes, he'll need rich customers. I suspect that there may be a different market in Japan though - perhaps older and more traditional people.

Sooner or later he will need to take on an apprentice - it would be nice if he can start a school like that.

You mentioned electronics, and the Japanese tradition of craftsmen making the whole thing brought to mind the slightly eccentric electronics of Susumu Sakuma. He (was?) making retro audio amplifiers on his kitchen table at one point.

http://www10.big.or.jp/~dh/sakuma/index.html

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker

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post #6

This reminds me actually a lot of Jiro Ono (famed sushi-maker). "Once you decide on your occupation, you must immerse yourself in your work. You have to fall in love with your work. Never complain about your job. You must dedicate your life to mastering your skill. That's the secret of success and is the key to being regarded honorably."

Sounds a lot like he was forcing himself to do the work in order to succeed and to be "regarded honorably".

Try him out - he's a fascinating character they made a documentary about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1UDS2kgqY8

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds a lot like he was forcing himself to do the work in order to succeed and to be "regarded honorably".

Do you interpret that as positive or negative?

It's a terminal preference that's alien to me, certainly. No more "good" or "bad" than the terminal preference a salmon has to swim upstream, fertilize eggs and die; it is what it is.

Now, if the question is whether this really is his terminal preference, or whether he misunderstands his own deepest desires and might, under different conditions, have suffered a "mid-life crisis" realizing he hasn't satisfied his true goals after all... I can't really say. You'd have to ask him. Probably after getting him very drunk, because "has your life been a mistake" is not the type of thing you make small-talk about.

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker

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post #6

This reminds me actually a lot of Jiro Ono (famed sushi-maker). "Once you decide on your occupation, you must immerse yourself in your work. You have to fall in love with your work. Never complain about your job. You must dedicate your life to mastering your skill. That's the secret of success and is the key to being regarded honorably."

Sounds a lot like he was forcing himself to do the work in order to succeed and to be "regarded honorably".

We don't care about money. All I want to do is make better sushi. I do the same thing over and over, improving bit by bit. There is always a yearning to achieve more. trying to reach the top... but no one knows where the top is. Even at my age, after decades of work... I don't think I have achieved perfection. But I feel ecstatic all day... I love making sushi. I've never once hated this job. I fell in love with my work and gave my life to it. Even though I'm eighty five years old... I don't feel like retiring. That's how I feel.

- 29m30s in Jiro Dreams of Sushi(2011)

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker

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post #8

Yay! Another site that renders as a white page with 3rd party javascript blocked. WTF, people?

It's down. No need for the anti JavaScript task force here.

I remember at some point on HN those sorts of comments were reasonably well-voted, and now they litter the bottom of any thread they appear in. I wonder when that changed.

Re: Masahiro Kikuno, Japanese Independent Watchmaker

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post #6

This reminds me actually a lot of Jiro Ono (famed sushi-maker). "Once you decide on your occupation, you must immerse yourself in your work. You have to fall in love with your work. Never complain about your job. You must dedicate your life to mastering your skill. That's the secret of success and is the key to being regarded honorably."

Sounds a lot like he was forcing himself to do the work in order to succeed and to be "regarded honorably".

I think the idea is that the key to being regarded honorably is to be really good at what you claim you do. And a life time is only long enough to master, i mean, really master, a single thing.

I think it must be a totally alien, or even irritating, idea to a bunch who expects to paid enormous sum of money because they have done a crash course in JavaScript spanning a month and claims to be able to build websites that can "deliver value" to the business..

That is considering they can even grasp the idea of things like "honor", which itself is a rather unpopular idea because it often gets in the way of making money....

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