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How Uber Backers Orchestrated Kalanick’s Ouster as CEO

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Re: How Uber Backers Orchestrated Kalanick’s Ouster as CEO

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> That's a really powerful quote from John Sculley. /s/John Sculley/Steve Jobs/

I'm sorry that you have had to use Hipchat so much that you know this and use it outside of it. A human can truly get used to anything.

s/Hipchat/sed/

Re: How Uber Backers Orchestrated Kalanick’s Ouster as CEO

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post #53

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I'm sorry that you have had to use Hipchat so much that you know this and use it outside of it. A human can truly get used to anything.

I don't think that syntax is Hipchat-specific

It's originally from `ed` then `sed` then `vi`. It's been in use in email, Usenet, and IRC for a very long time.

Re: How Uber Backers Orchestrated Kalanick’s Ouster as CEO

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While I do agree that the culture at Uber was toxic and ultimately Travis was to blame for that, on a human level I do feel for the guy. At the end of the day, he just lost his mother and now also his life's work for the foreseeable future. And damn that must suck.

Travis did not lose his life's work per say. He was forced out by investors while he still keeps all his shares and still remains the president of the board and has a huge say in choosing a successor who will likely be his puppet. The fact that pugnacious and aggressive Travis still controlled the board (along with two other founders who always sided with Travis) and did not fight this means Travis got some deal from the investors. The successor would be chosen by him and in a sense his puppet.

Re: How Uber Backers Orchestrated Kalanick’s Ouster as CEO

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So the probability of a competitor inventing such a claim was literally zero?

> So the probability of a competitor inventing such a claim was literally zero? Enlighten us, which competitor made such a claim?

Are you being willfully obtuse? They never said that a competitor did make such a claim. They said that it is not impossible that a competitor could have made a claim, so it's not unreasonable for someone to be, a priori, slightly skeptical of it.

Uber does have a strong competitor in India, a local company called Ola Cabs.

Re: How Uber Backers Orchestrated Kalanick’s Ouster as CEO

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> So the probability of a competitor inventing such a claim was literally zero? Enlighten us, which competitor made such a claim?

Are you being willfully obtuse? They never said that a competitor did make such a claim. They said that it is not impossible that a competitor could have made a claim, so it's not unreasonable for someone to be, a priori, slightly skeptical of it. Uber does have a strong competitor in India, a local company called Ola Cabs.

That is an extraordinary claim to make, especially when offered without citations. And especially when taking into account how India is effectively Rape Central. And yet you think he is being will fully obtuse?

Plus, it's not the orchestrator of the rape who is in question anyway. It's Kalanick's response, involving the alleged acquisition of the woman's medical records without her consent. And if true, that speaks to some despicable moral compass within Uber. Which isn't news anyway.

Re: How Uber Backers Orchestrated Kalanick’s Ouster as CEO

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post #60

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So the probability of a competitor inventing such a claim was literally zero?

> So the probability of a competitor inventing such a claim was literally zero? Enlighten us, which competitor made such a claim?

Well presumably none, otherwise Uber would have exposed it. I'm just pointing out that it seems totally plausible for a company to hire someone to invent such a scenario. And especially in certain countries, it can't be hard to get away with it.

Uber may have been paranoid, perhaps because they know how easily they'd do such things? Or due to their general attitude?

Re: How Uber Backers Orchestrated Kalanick’s Ouster as CEO

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Are you being willfully obtuse? They never said that a competitor did make such a claim. They said that it is not impossible that a competitor could have made a claim, so it's not unreasonable for someone to be, a priori, slightly skeptical of it. Uber does have a strong competitor in India, a local company called Ola Cabs.

That is an extraordinary claim to make, especially when offered without citations. And especially when taking into account how India is effectively Rape Central. And yet you think he is being will fully obtuse? Plus, it's not the orchestrator of the rape who is in question anyway. It's Kalanick's response, involving the alleged acquisition of the woman's medical records without her consent. And if true, that speaks t…

It's what Uber suggested, and presumably one reason they got her records.

" Uber executives discussed the possibility that the rape could be tied to one of its competitors in India — such as a taxi company or Ola, the largest Indian ride-hailing company — as part of a plan to sabotage Uber’s momentum in the region. One day after the rape was made public, Uber was banned by officials in New Delhi. "

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/15/technology/uber-india-...

Re: How Uber Backers Orchestrated Kalanick’s Ouster as CEO

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In retrospect, it is interesting to see that a reflective blog post from an engineer ended up in the casualties of CEO, most of the senior leadership and a few board members. Maybe the cracks were already there but nevertheless it has been surreal seeing this unfold in the space of 5 months. It is almost like watching the butterfly effect in action.

Re: How Uber Backers Orchestrated Kalanick’s Ouster as CEO

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Well, he still has his billions and is on the board.

Is there any way to know how much he's taken off the table? The way Uber is going, I'd be shocked if he's worth billions in 5 years.

Uber isn't built on a tower of fraud like Theranos, it's a behemoth that changed how transportation works. Travis is going to be a billionaire many times over when the stock is liquid.

Re: How Uber Backers Orchestrated Kalanick’s Ouster as CEO

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A commenter in another thread put it very well: you can have as many voting shares as you like, but you aren't in control of your company until you're profitable.

Kalanick is less CEO and more like a comic book caricature of one before they fall into pure evil. The fact that the board stood by him as long as they did is just mind bending.

He created a service that reduced drunk driving rates by 1/3, enabled nearly 200K drivers to become entrepreneurs, provided a valuable service to millions of customers, and accelerated the shift to self driving cars. That deserves serious credit.
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