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Bill Gurley Is Leaving Uber’s Board

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Re: Bill Gurley Is Leaving Uber’s Board

#101

Finally! After years of assholes being assholes because it's not illegal to be assholes, now finally they are finding that there are repercussions. if you piss off everyone, then you better hope like hell that you don't fall and need someone's help. tldr: assholes.

Unfortunately, it seems the true lesson is "after years of being assholes, they get to go home with more money than many of us will ever see".

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#103

I remain flabbergasted by all of this upheaval at Uber. What's happening is the sort of housecleaning I would expect if the company had to file for bankruptcy or got caught flat out bribing judges or something. But really, what triggered all this was acting like jerks. It seems to me, what should have happened (a long time ago) was that they got shut down for systematically breaking the law, or encouraging others to…

The laws they were breaking are employment laws. Financial institutions are rooting for these kind of rebels.

Making profits without employees is the holy grail of finance. They are willing to look away on law violations if you blind them with that dream. By the way, in my opinion, a similar sentiment is driving the hype in deep learning funding.

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#104

I remain flabbergasted by all of this upheaval at Uber. What's happening is the sort of housecleaning I would expect if the company had to file for bankruptcy or got caught flat out bribing judges or something. But really, what triggered all this was acting like jerks. It seems to me, what should have happened (a long time ago) was that they got shut down for systematically breaking the law, or encouraging others to…

Sexual harassment and retaliation against employees for reporting it is not "just being jerks". It is illegal.

No it is not. The word "illegal" gets thrown around way too much; it has a very specific definition in law, and nothing you described is illegal.

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I remain flabbergasted by all of this upheaval at Uber. What's happening is the sort of housecleaning I would expect if the company had to file for bankruptcy or got caught flat out bribing judges or something. But really, what triggered all this was acting like jerks. It seems to me, what should have happened (a long time ago) was that they got shut down for systematically breaking the law, or encouraging others to…

A jerk is someone who borrows your car and doesn't pay for the dent he puts in the bumper. What happened at Uber was the creation of one of the most insanely hostile work environments in living memory, where flouting not just the law, but also basic standards of human decency, was not only accepted but encouraged at all levels of the company.

I have yet to find a place that can maintain "basic standards of human decency" yet still be aggressive enough in its endeavors to push the limits without people getting hurt.

Listen, Uber gets lots of flak for being a nasty work environment, but maybe all it ever did was play very, very hard ball. People think the solution is to, figuratively speaking, play nice, but maybe the real solution is for the other side of the team to play just as hard, if not harder. Meaning for employees to not just own the assigned work, but also the work environment, to blow the whistle when they see something wrong, to dig up the hatchet when things get unfair, and most importantly to never be accepting of status quo just for political reasons or for lack of perseverance, but to confront every thing they disagree with, for the very simple reason of "communication" more than anything else.

The idea is not to punish but to make points known and push evil back into its hiding spot.

Re: Bill Gurley Is Leaving Uber’s Board

#106

I remain flabbergasted by all of this upheaval at Uber. What's happening is the sort of housecleaning I would expect if the company had to file for bankruptcy or got caught flat out bribing judges or something. But really, what triggered all this was acting like jerks. It seems to me, what should have happened (a long time ago) was that they got shut down for systematically breaking the law, or encouraging others to…

Housecleaning indeed, though some departures were voluntary. 8 top level execs and two board members so far. Link contains a visual of who has left the building, 2 incoming execs and vacant C Suite spots. https://www.recode.net/2017/6/14/15794816/uber-charge-leader...

I'm surprised Thuan Pham (CTO) survived the carnage since he was mentioned in Susan Fowler's post. As an aside my dark horse candidates for CEO or COO are Thomas Staggs former Disney COO and Susan Wojcicki (Current YouTube CEO)

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post #104

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Sexual harassment and retaliation against employees for reporting it is not "just being jerks". It is illegal.

No it is not. The word "illegal" gets thrown around way too much; it has a very specific definition in law, and nothing you described is illegal.

Huh? Sexual harassment and retaliation are both illegal under the Civil Rights Act.

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#108
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You're assuming the current board didn't have this planned for a long time. Let them break the law to get things done, then clean house after the stage was properly set. I STILL think that people are downplaying the Otto thing way too much, especially on this site. It's easy to say that they're going to win in court... but this is GOOGLE - they're going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars and likely a decade try…

Kalanick still had the majority. The board couldn't "plan" this without his consent.

Depends on how you define "consent" — others have noted that they need to raise a round within a little over a year, and they may have threatened to poison the well if Kalanick didn't step down.

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post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sexual harassment and retaliation against employees for reporting it is not "just being jerks". It is illegal.

No it is not. The word "illegal" gets thrown around way too much; it has a very specific definition in law, and nothing you described is illegal.

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I've never heard of the guy, whats hew known for? Also what's wrong with angellist?

Everything you need to know is linked to on that page I linked to. Nothing is wrong with AngelList. AngelList is great. It was Bill Gurley's slimey VC actions to conspire with Nirav Tolia against the other Epinions founders and early employees that led Naval Ravikant to found AngelList as an alternative to the VC system.

That article doesn't say much. Which link in it has the meat?
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