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Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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Re: Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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Post by spitfire »

johncolanduoni wrote: post #50
paulsutter wrote: post #38

Vancouver, anyone? I live in Seattle and I'm about ready to drive two hours north for my next startup. To hire the Russian programmers I'm already working with, or the folks on Kaggle I'd love to hire. The US has a completely broken scheme for visas.

Last time I checked, Canada is still much stricter when it comes to work visas than the US, though I suppose much less of their capacity is getting eaten up by Infosys-like operations.

I know MIT grad lisp hacker types who couldn't pass the entrance points requirements. The trick is you have to learn French. No matter what - Learn French.

Re: Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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Post by jzwinck »

notadoc wrote: post #8

Are they going to scrap the EB-5 visa too? Doesn't it basically sell citizenship for real estate?

"Investor" visas exist in many countries. Eliminating it in the US would result in US people being excluded in other countries. And if there is one thing rich people aren't going to vote/lobby for, it is curtailment of their ability to migrate.

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Post by gnaritas »

jshevek wrote: post #45
gnaritas wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Earning a lot of money is a pretty damn good proxy for contributing to society. What a weird reality tunnel you inhabit.

This comment contributes nothing, but insults another for their worldview.

Pointing out to someone that you don't share their worldview and in fact find it weird does contribute something, hopefully it pops their little bubble of thinking everyone agrees with them. And no, I didn't insult him, I said his reality tunnel is weird; that you can't tell the difference between insulting a person and commenting on their worldview says a lot about you. You can respect people without respecting their beliefs, you are not your beliefs, no ideas are beyond criticism.

Re: Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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Post by drspacemonkey »

paulsutter wrote: post #84
drspacemonkey wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Real estate on the Washington side of the border is insanely cheaper. As soon as you cross the border, prices skyrocket and just keep going up until you hit downtown Vancouver. Seriously, our affordability problem is pretty much at crisis levels. People who argue that we should increase density aren't wrong, but we're already building towers as fast as we can. And the majority of those suffer from substandard, shoddy…

Vancouver is a wonderful city so I can really understand why you want to keep everyone from finding out :) But go see San Francisco if you want to understand an affordability crisis. Vancouver is reasonable in comparison.

Yes, the cost of living in San Francisco is about twice that of Vancouver. But salaries in Vancouver less than half that of San Francisco, so affordability is worse overall.

Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE a stronger tech sector here (especially as a developer). We desperately need an industry other than real estate and film. But I just don't see how that can happen without a fundamental shift that just isn't happening anytime soon.

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Post by dragonwriter »

bjl wrote: post #48
jshevek wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment contributes nothing, but insults another for their worldview.

Why shouldn't we insult myopic, damaging worldviews like the OP's?

You shouldn't do it on HN, because it's noise rather than substantive discourse.

Re: Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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Post by gnaritas »

soldierofhayley wrote: post #72
andrepd wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How on earth does "IQ testing" and "consideration to fellow countrymen" even relate? I cannot fathom the connection.

Who do you think pays for the unintelligent people in the welfare society the left envisions? Additionally I do find it rather amusing the left complains that the only reason they don’t win is because of stupid people, and then insists on bringing in the least intelligent immigrants possible, something doesn’t quite add up.

The "left" is not a single person with a single position, by treating it as such, you're sealing yourself into a personal delusion about others that might make you feel good, but simply isn't accurate. And using derogatory terms like "welfare society" merely shows your own political bias. You know why the "left" confuses you, it's because you don't actually bother to try and understand them; you're happy simply mis-characterizing them in this cartoon'ish manner.

Re: Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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Post by atomi »

muninn_ wrote: post #41
marcell wrote: post #15

From the article: "To qualify for the rule, entrepreneurs would have to meet high standards. A foreigner must demonstrate that he or she will contribute to economic growth or job creation and show that a reputable investor has put at least $250,000 into the company. Under this rule, they can stay in the U.S. for 30 months, with the possibility of a 30-month extension. They cannot apply for a green card during this pe…

> I'm 100% in favor of increasing all immigration to the USA Why? What's wrong with the current level?

China is of comparable size to the US and has a population of nearly 1.4 billion people. We need the best here if we plan on staying a global superpower.

It's incredible what is happening. It's like watching a slow moving train wreck and there is nothing we can do to stop it. :/

Re: Trump administration has plan to scrap ‘startup visa’ rule

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Post by Indolat »

Unfortunately, the immigration policies of most countries in the world are one huge stupid joke. Why so much obsession about the country where people were born into? It wasn't their choice at all. It just doesn't matter.

The only questions you should be asking are "are they decent people? Are they willing to integrate? Will they contribute to our economy? Will they make us problems?" And none of these questions you can answer by reading the name of the country on their passport.

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