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>>I think that depends on what you mean with self-driving. It means a car that doesn't have a steering wheel, brake and accelerator. That kind of a car is quite far.
That's at least 4-5 automotive cycles away, IMO (so 25-30 year away). And that's for the high end. The low end cars are probably 50-60 years away, IMO.
Tesla hires Andrej Karpathy
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Open AI was always a pipeline for Musk. Use other people's donations to attract and identify the talent, then move them under his payroll. I guess that's a win win for the employees and for Musk. Not sure how many other supporters Open AI has, though I doubt that's what they had in mind when they donated to support that effort.
It's not like Musk doesn't donate to OpenAI himself..
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
Open AI was always a pipeline for Musk. Use other people's donations to attract and identify the talent, then move them under his payroll. I guess that's a win win for the employees and for Musk. Not sure how many other supporters Open AI has, though I doubt that's what they had in mind when they donated to support that effort.
It's not like Musk doesn't donate to OpenAI himself..
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#254Earlier quoted context omitted.
Open AI was always a pipeline for Musk. Use other people's donations to attract and identify the talent, then move them under his payroll. I guess that's a win win for the employees and for Musk. Not sure how many other supporters Open AI has, though I doubt that's what they had in mind when they donated to support that effort.
It's not like Musk doesn't donate to OpenAI himself..
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#255What this really reflects is that Tesla has painted itself into a corner. They've shipped vehicles with a weak sensor suite that's claimed to be sufficient to support self-driving, leaving the software for later. Tesla, unlike everybody else who's serious, doesn't have a LIDAR. Now, it's "later", their software demos are about where Google was in 2010, and Tesla has a big problem. This is a really hard problem to do…
When musk said they were doing the first decent electrical sport car, everybody became an expert and said it won't work. Then he decided to do solar city and space x. And the crowd said again "naaaa". Now the guy is tackling another hard problem and everybody knows better.
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If google were to embrace swift that would be spicy.
I would think Google would already be using Swift for their iOS apps and all. As for other stuff they have lots of choice and Swift can't be ruled out. After all, they also use Typescript developed by MS. I think many want rewrites of fine, working software to show language's worth. This is startup or single developer stuff, large professional companies rarely rewrite stuff on whim.
> After all, they also use Typescript developed by MS.
Ofc, it's the best language for the purpose.
> This is startup or single developer stuff, large professional companies rarely rewrite stuff on whim.
That's not correct. https://martinfowler.com/bliki/SacrificialArchitecture.html#...
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#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
Open AI was always a pipeline for Musk. Use other people's donations to attract and identify the talent, then move them under his payroll. I guess that's a win win for the employees and for Musk. Not sure how many other supporters Open AI has, though I doubt that's what they had in mind when they donated to support that effort.
Worth noting that OpenAI may not otherwise exist. It mightn't be precisely ideal, but I think it's broadly a 3-way win.
If it weren't attached to Musk, and if Tesla never hired from them, I'd agree it's good to have a non-profit in the mix. As it is, if it looks and acts like a pipeline for talent, it's a pipeline for talent.
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> Prediction: 2020 will be the year the big players have self-driving. I think that depends on what you mean with self-driving. My prediction is that in 2020 we will have slightly better driver assistance systems. Maybe a lane assist system which won't kill me if I don't babysit it on a road with construction ongoing and multiple lane markings or if corners get too tight. Maybe some limited self-driving, e.g. only av…
I am curious about what percentage of accidents are caused by the driver falling asleep, and if a lot of lives could be saved by a driver assistance system that self-drives with even the crudest of sensors until the driver is successfully woken up, which would probably be several seconds later.
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When musk said they were doing the first decent electrical sport car, everybody became an expert and said it won't work. Then he decided to do solar city and space x. And the crowd said again "naaaa". Now the guy is tackling another hard problem and everybody knows better.
My thoughts exactly. Elon Musk is not known for vaporware or BSing. If he says something is doable, there's a good reason for it. Musk has a combination of vision, an understanding of physics, and execution ability unmatched by any other person (in my opinion). To say that he has painted himself in a corner is highly misinformed.
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You have to be careful how you let people go if you want to attract good talent. There is always a chance of a misfit, and the right thing to do is to part ways as soon either party realizes it, but you want to do this in a way that is not unnecessarily damaging to either party's reputation. Otherwise, good people with a reputation may think twice about working with you.
Reputation is for B players. Chris Lattner can go work for any company in the world that can afford him. A players don't look at company's reputation, they look at things that actually matter.