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Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

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Re: Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

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Unless you catch lightning in a bottle, you'll need 4 years.

4 years for what? To find product/market fit? To become profitable? I presume you are referencing some rule of thumb that is not familiar to me...?

OP is not experienced. OP has no idea what he's doing. It will take him 1 year to realize the idea he chose sucks. 1 year to panic and freelance while he figures out what he's doing next, then 2 years to reach profitability.

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> £300-400 day rate How do people earn so much?

As far as I know that's really not even a "fair" rate in the US at least. I.e. full time employees with benefits can pretty easily make more.

I earn that much a week in Canada...

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I agree with some of the other's comments that time is the most valuable asset. Be productive! Also: 1) Most of the advice that you find online is not really applicable. I like the stuff that Sam Altman (yes, ycombinator) puts out because it most mirrors what I've experienced. 2) You need to do it yourself. Whatever it is. Just do it. 3) Funding is a game. Here on the east coast investors pretty much only fund the growth stage of a company after you have real traction and are virtually guaranteed some kind of success. You will need to fund your startup out of your own pocket until then! This is what they call "friends and family" because you will be hitting them up for money, favors, meals, places to stay, etc. 4) The tech is the easy part, as that is what you know. Marketing and selling is the hard part, as that is what you likely don't know. It is the part you should try to get help with if you can, but finding someone that knows what their doing is tough, so you can be sidetracked quite a bit. 5) The "do things that don't scale" is completely true. Reaching out one-on-one has been the most successful way to engage potential customers, even though it is very time and labor intensive.

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All the best - do you have a link yet?

Yeah absolutely. Our app is https://feeder.co . You can read a bit about our numbers on Indiehackers.com: https://www.indiehackers.com/businesses/feeder MRR is ~3100 USD right now.

I'm signing up right now; you should charge more.

Re: Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

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TLDR - Sort out your finances first, startups are extremely stress inducing and even now with our startup at the point of break even, £1m ARR and 100% growth predicted for next financial year, I still currently earn less than I need to live but with the promise of a strong exit in the next 3-4 years if we hit our targets.

Previously I contracted as a full stack developer bringing in other developers on projects as and when the project timescales wouldn't have been achievable with just me. Running a software consultancy alone, dealing with all of the usual rigmarole of a business and performing proper client outreach was stressful, but financially and personally very rewarding (especially when you close a big deal completely on your own).

In order to get involved in my current startup, which at the outset was comprised of a designer, biz dev (CEO) and myself as CTO I had to cut off ties with my previous clients and dedicate all of my available time to the new startup. I had leveraged myself quite a bit running the previous consultancy as billings were growing year on year, so my VAT/Corporation tax accounts were generally paid out of job fees towards the end of the year rather than set aside throughout the year, leaving me in a negative cash flow position when stopping work for existing clients. Luckily there were some ongoing payments that didn't require development resource, so the small admin time required to invoice and chase up was all that was required, and enabled me to setup payment arrangements with HMRC to settle these liabilities over a period of time, out of this cashflow. Setting up these arrangements was very stressful, and I would strongly advise anyone coming into a startup to fully evaluate their financial situation before committing even if the opportunity seems huge.

Initial salaries in the new start-up were minimal (£1000 p/m approx), and it took a solid three years, extremely long working days, almost unmanageable personal stress and around £0.5m of funding before we're now up to an above average average salary, £1m ARR, a team of 15 and strong growth projected for the coming year.

Success is a subjective term and occasionally I have to refocus to see the light at the end of the tunnel, but with enough grit, luck and determination, it’s possible to tip the balance to a point where success is now more likely than not.

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This might be slightly offtopic but I've been thinking of working on my own ideas for a decade now. I tried working on projects in the evening and weekends but there isnt enough time. Not only does it effect your social life but also effects your motivation and drive in general. After looking at code on a screen for 7 hours, last thing you want to do is go home and look at more code [I guess this depends on your age,…

> £300-400 day rate How do people earn so much?

Contract rates for Javascript developers in North West are £300-400, London contract rates are £400+ I've got a BSc and MSc and have been working as a Frontend/JS dev for the past decade. HOWEVER that is negligible, theres a lot of good self taught dev's out there that are contracting and in really decent positions.

Also theres more jobs than good dev's in England, i get job at least 10+ job offers on Linkedin in every week

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This might be slightly offtopic but I've been thinking of working on my own ideas for a decade now. I tried working on projects in the evening and weekends but there isnt enough time. Not only does it effect your social life but also effects your motivation and drive in general. After looking at code on a screen for 7 hours, last thing you want to do is go home and look at more code [I guess this depends on your age,…

> £300-400 day rate How do people earn so much?

A 100k salary is roughly 400 per 8 hour day worked.

Re: Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

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This might be slightly offtopic but I've been thinking of working on my own ideas for a decade now. I tried working on projects in the evening and weekends but there isnt enough time. Not only does it effect your social life but also effects your motivation and drive in general. After looking at code on a screen for 7 hours, last thing you want to do is go home and look at more code [I guess this depends on your age,…

I'm in the same boat as you and same age group. But I'm not sure if I can quit my job because it's a very nice job with a nice group of people. And there's no guarantee that if I go my own way, I will succeed. Leaving would be very difficult for me right now. I wish you all the best for your startup journey!

Re: Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

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I think the whole point of an MVP is to validate the hypotesis you make about your users. In your case for example, do you know who your users are? Are they entrepreneurs? Current software developers? Anyhow, who is going to use your service? I'm not trying here to undermine your project since it indeed sounds pretty awesome, but to reinstate why the whole mvp movement has a reason to be.

For marketing-tech, sure it's a great model, but getting out an MVP as fast as possible doesn't always make sense. Sometimes it takes an order of magnitude more effort to get to "minimum" or "viable" depending on the product. On the contrary, a lot of developer's side projects just feel like things that any reasonably skilled developer could build given a few days. The question of finding customers, is exactly the sa…

I agree with you about the complexity of a mvp. It indeed may vary. However a mvp is about testing an hypothesis, not building a simple version of a product.

Maybe an mvp for a complex product is just a landing page explaining features with a buy button, built in under 2 hours using optimizely.

Again, it depends on the hypothesis. So, in this way, I differ with you when you say getting out a mvp asap doesn't make sense. Because validating you hypothesis is what you want to make as fast as possible. But then, launching as fast as possible doesn't imply necessarily launching fast.

Re: Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

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I quit my job to start my own company last January. Its been fairly successful so far. For somebody like me, and probably a lot of HN readers, its _actually_ a fairly low risk proposition because qualified, experienced software engineers are so sought after. Whatever you are doing, you will always be able to pick up a $1000-$1500 a day gig when you need to bootstrap your actual project. My old boss has contacted me a…

> For somebody like me, and probably a lot of HN readers, its _actually_ a fairly low risk proposition because qualified, experienced software engineers are so sought after. Whatever you are doing, you will always be able to pick up a $1000-$1500 a day gig when you need to bootstrap your actual project.

What on Earth are you talking about? If it were possible for most experienced software engineers to simply snap their fingers and get "gigs" like this, everyone would be doing it. Leaving full-time employment is extremely risky--that's why most people are not entrepreneurs. It's why financial advisors recommend you keep 3-6 months of expenses in an emergency fund, because it can take that long to find a new job should you find yourself in need of one.

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