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Re: Django Hidden Hires

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Post by jacobian »

yesimahuman wrote: post #15
forsaken wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of the point is that we pre-screen developers (and employers) to ensure that people are high quality -- and that they have actually used Django before. We are requiring open source code to be shown (or having a good reason for not having any). Along with doing basic interview-style questions to prove that you actually understand Django on a non-trivial level.

I guess my biggest fear would be to find a "fanboy". Is there some kind of screening process for that? I love django just as much as the next guy but no technology is the end all.

There will be a screening process, yes, and diversity of experience will be one of the factors we take into account. Nobody wants to hire or work with a one-trick pony.

Re: Django Hidden Hires

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Post by jacobian »

grasshoper wrote: post #18

I feel that the market right now for Django is still too small for something like this to really work. Even the open Django job boards like http://www.djangogigs.com are pretty barren. How are you going to convince employers to fork over money without proof that there are lots of talented Django developers behind the walls of your site? And how are you going to convince developers to go through the trouble of opening…

These are all great questions — indeed, they're ones I've asked myself. Only time will tell, I suppose.

However, the impetus behind Hidden Hires is a cry real need: although Django's community is growing at a rapid clip, it's still a niche enough technology that employment is tricky. I regularly hear from developers who are having trouble finding jobs that match their skills, and I'm simultaneously hearing from companies who can't fill open positions. It's clear to me that the existing employment markets — job boards, recruiters, etc. — aren't serving our community very well.

We're hoping to fix that problem eith Hidden Hires. We'll see how it works out.

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Post by sumeeta »

Hiring for Django or hiring for Python? For a Python coder, a Django job sounds a bit drab. And a Django developer sounds like someone way less technical than someone who has a lot of experience writing Python code.

What’s the real difference between Django developer and Python developer?

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Post by alnayyir »

sumeeta wrote: post #23

Hiring for Django or hiring for Python? For a Python coder, a Django job sounds a bit drab. And a Django developer sounds like someone way less technical than someone who has a lot of experience writing Python code. What’s the real difference between Django developer and Python developer ?

I'm a generalist that found work as a 'Django developer', and I actually ended up enjoying it, despite Django's flaws (minimal compared to what other frameworks are out there).

I do in fact spend most of my programming time on Python, and I enjoy using my faculties to write better/faster/smaller code.

Re: Django Hidden Hires

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Post by newaroundhere »

yesimahuman wrote: post #6

Interesting, but I'm a bit shy about hiring people through channels like this, worried that they really have only worked with Django or only want to work with Django.

Agreed; why not have a site like this at least for Python ? Any half-decent Python programmer should be able to pick up Django quite quickly, and I'd rather hire a good Python programmer with broad experience than someone who has just used Python through Django.

Re: Django Hidden Hires

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Post by adamt »

I was reading the bit about how they pre-screen candidates, and was wondering if they actually know that much about Django themselves.

Then I saw saw their team page:

[quote] Our team is: Jacob Kaplan-Moss, a core Django developer and partner at Revolution Systems. Eric Holscher, the testing master and lead developer at the Lawrence Journal-World, where Django originated. [/quote]

Re: Django Hidden Hires

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Post by nailer »

jacobian wrote: post #21
yesimahuman wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess my biggest fear would be to find a "fanboy". Is there some kind of screening process for that? I love django just as much as the next guy but no technology is the end all.

There will be a screening process, yes, and diversity of experience will be one of the factors we take into account. Nobody wants to hire or work with a one-trick pony.

> Nobody wants to hire or work with a one-trick pony.

Your deviousness is subtle, great master.

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