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Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

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Re: Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

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Am 3-4 months in with concept. Have anchor client and consultancy partnership. The biggest and wildest thing is moving from someone with an idea to a visionary leader in a space. It's fundamentally awesome to take said idea, turn it into a offering and go out on the line with it. I have had nothing but wonderful experiences with others helping me out. I am 40, have 2 kids, a dog and a wife and a pretty good network which I have had to really 'work' (authentically) but the assistance from others, trust and good feelings are something that have made me believe in the human race a bit more! In corporate it's all protectionism and petty arguments AND a visionary thinker is not what they want! I am lucky to have found an excellent co-founder who is a great counter part. Definitely taking/balancing risks, going fast and working really hard (doesn't feel like work building your own thing though) however the finances have to be calculated and I have taken the consulting/product route which seems to be good but converting a service driven model to a recurring revenue model is the goal AND the challenge.

Re: Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

#42
Last year I quit a great full time role to focus on my side project, EmailOctopus (https://emailoctopus.com). Haven't looked back since!

I didn't take the plunge until quite late on, waiting until it was making enough money to comfortably cover my personal expenses. No regrets there - growth was slow in the early days and if I hadn't had the luxury of a monthly pay packet, I probably would have given up before I got the chance to properly validate the business.

Transitioning to full time brought more stress than I expected, but the experience is priceless. In the past few months alone I've learnt more than I did in 3 years of employment.

Realistically, what's the worst case scenario? I'm a reasonably skilled dev in a strong market so there's not much to lose. If it all goes wrong I'll get another job with a load of experience (and stories!) under my belt.

Re: Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

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I can tell you what it was like to quit my job and focus on a very-early-holy-shit-what-are-we-doing-startup. Was at a marketing agency for 10 years when I left to pursue my first co-founded startup. Made the decision after we got a little organic press and signed up 5k+ users in 24 hours. I had been looking for an excuse to leave and do something new anyway.

It was scary as hell (no revenue coming from the startup), fun as hell, challenging as hell. Had my savings all planned out to help support the adventure, but still had that daily stress of knowing every dollar I spent was not coming back anytime soon. That part wasn't fun. But I didn't have kids or a mortgage and knew this was my chance to do something of the sort.

10/10 would do again in a similar situation, though knowing what I know now, I might have launched a business instead of chased a cool idea.

Re: Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

#44
I started doing this recently by quitting my job, and I currently have no income.

There is this assumption that one must build a minimum viable product that has to be released as quickly as possible, so much that it's become startup mantra. It's no surprise that a lot of these products seem to be technically shallow, everyone is reaching for low hanging fruit.

I feel rather alone trying to do something that I think hasn't been done before, or if it had, wasn't executed well. I don't think I could possibly commit to it without having strong motivation, which I struggled with while having a full-time job.

The biggest technical/social challenge I have is to make something that a non-technical user could easily get right away and make something with it. I think the automation of web dev is an inevitability, and frameworks were just a historical blip on this path. The same thing is happening to web design. http://hypereum.com

Re: Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

#45
If you're single, childless, and have a few thousand dollars in savings, quitting your job to focus on a side project or startup is very easy. You can achieve your dream in the next 24 hours. Here's the roadmap.

1. Give your employer your 2 weeks/1 month notice (depending on locale). Taking this step immediately is critical because the urgency and shock of the change will force you into being fast and practical about all the subsequent steps.

2. Create a monthly budget for yourself which assumes no income that you are not 100% sure about. So if you have interest from investments or a freelance contract that's a absolute guarantee you can include it. For most people the income side of this budget is going to be low or nothing. Your goal with this budget is to stretch your funds out for 6-12 months. The good news is that in 2017, the principle of geoarbitrage allows you to live on virtually any budget. If you live in the Bay Area your next step is going to be to move somewhere cheaper. On the cheapest end of the spectrum, I'll use Thailand as an example because I live here, you can get a basic apartment in the suburbs of Chiang Mai or Bangkok for $100-$500/mo, your initial arrival can be visa-free, and you'll live on delicious Thai food from a restaurant down the road for a few dollars a day. Network heavily with people in your intended destination before you even arrive because it'll make everything 100 times easier.

3. Now create a business plan for your new entity. The business plan should include a description of the product or service which you're going to market, how you're going to market it, what you're going to charge (start high), and any and all costs of development and operation including your own time. It should include monthly profit/loss projections (you're not allowed to use these projections in your budget, they are goals, not guarantees). The most important thing about your business isn't what product or service you initially offer. Once you have assets and control you can try anything you want. Until then the goal of your business is to make enough income that your assets are growing, no matter what that entails.

If you're leaving the country as a part of this process I would advise forming an LLC and opening a bank account before you go, as these things can be difficult from overseas. You'll be very busy trying to make money and living your dream so you don't want to have to deal with paperwork.

Prepare yourself mentally to work very hard for at least the next 6 months and do whatever you need to do to make enough cash. You will become practical and decisive, and you'll learn many realities about business, such as cash flow is king, very quickly. I got my start being nickel-and-dimed by agencies in India over Elance. It sucked and it was hard and it was 100% worth it.

There are many objections to this strategy which typically stem from risk aversion, or a desire to not worry about money. I would submit that if one objects to the risk, this plan is a personal growth opportunity: it will teach them how to handle stress, plan for contingencies, and so on. If the objection is that they don't want to worry about money, I would point out that money is just a way for people to quantify your value to them, and since no man is an island, there are great personal and financial rewards to be reaped from confronting this objection and discovering what other people truly value about you.

Doing step 1 first and now is the key. If your path brings you through Bangkok let me know and we'll grab a beer! I've seen many people succeed at this and a few fail. Your odds are better than you think.

Re: Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

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Only asking for opinions from people who were successful is literally asking for survivor bias perspectives. I dream of working for myself but I've never taken the plunge. My income from side projects is about 1/3 of the way to my minimum number to quit and go full time. I do a lot of thinking about this, my number is the same as my financial independence / early retirement number. One of the biggest things that hold…

Oh that is very tough! I'm only in my early 20s, but I worry so much about retirement, probably one of my most deep fears! I figure the only way for me to get ahead is to be financially successful, either my startup makes it or I go to get my PhD in a cutting edge, lucrative compsci field.

Just save and you'll be far ahead and get a job at google or someplace like that (a professional software company) OR go into finance.

Re: Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you catch lightning in a bottle, you'll need 4 years.

4 years for what? To find product/market fit? To become profitable? I presume you are referencing some rule of thumb that is not familiar to me...?

Maybe that it always takes twice as long as you planned?

Re: Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

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This might be slightly offtopic but I've been thinking of working on my own ideas for a decade now. I tried working on projects in the evening and weekends but there isnt enough time. Not only does it effect your social life but also effects your motivation and drive in general. After looking at code on a screen for 7 hours, last thing you want to do is go home and look at more code [I guess this depends on your age,…

Unless you catch lightning in a bottle, you'll need 4 years.

Four years is an absurd amount of time to get to break-even (ie paying yourself an income that covers your bills and the company bills), particularly if it's a one-person bootstrap.

Lightning in a bottle is 1-2 months to break-even under the bootstrap scenario. 6-8 months is closer to reasonable depending on cost of living for where someone is living. Anything much beyond that time-frame means something is very, very wrong (or it's a particularly unusual business being formed, requiring years of build time).

Four years to get to a few thousand dollars per month in sales? I don't think so.

Re: Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

#49

Last year I quit a great full time role to focus on my side project, EmailOctopus ( https://emailoctopus.com ). Haven't looked back since! I didn't take the plunge until quite late on, waiting until it was making enough money to comfortably cover my personal expenses. No regrets there - growth was slow in the early days and if I hadn't had the luxury of a monthly pay packet, I probably would have given up before I go…

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Re: Ask HN: What was it like to quit your job and focus on your successful startup?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you catch lightning in a bottle, you'll need 4 years.

Four years is an absurd amount of time to get to break-even (ie paying yourself an income that covers your bills and the company bills), particularly if it's a one-person bootstrap. Lightning in a bottle is 1-2 months to break-even under the bootstrap scenario. 6-8 months is closer to reasonable depending on cost of living for where someone is living. Anything much beyond that time-frame means something is very, very…

No, it's just being realistic. It took me more like 8 years to build up to a respectable salary. After the first 4 years I could pay rent and buy groceries but not much more.
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