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Re: We are giving out water

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Restaurants and clubs do this all the time. It's not so surprising or ingenious. It is kind of a bitch, though.

isn't that due to actual full capacity (restaurants) and fire code (clubs)? i don't think either one has the ability to schedule their customers throughout the day or take another approach to reservations.

Re: We are giving out water

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Did the UK not have pre-order for delivery? I had my iPhone 4 a day earlier than they were released in the store, and I never had to wait in any line or even leave the house.

They don't deliver to hotels, so the guy from Norway was out of luck. Some ppl don't have bank cards or don't trust e-commerce security. Some don't want their partners/parents to know they bought a new expensive toy.

For the latter, lets hope they won't be seen on the news or mentioned in these kinds of articles.

Re: We are giving out water

#83

I am surprised that nobody sees here a recipe for downfall : Apple is a very incompetent company when it comes to product massification. This is the most anti-Henry Ford strategy possible: overpriced premium products for a cult-like base of customers. They sell gadgets like Louis-Vuitton sells handbags and Prada sells shoes. And that's exactly the strategy they followed with the Mac and got them cornered in a niche.…

You forgot about coupling their premium products to some best-in-class services: the iTunes Music Store and App Store.

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It is pretty surprising that Apple hasn't been called on this cheap PR. Every person standing in line is being used as a stooge by Apple to get press, and the media always abides. This is the first article I've seen yet that points out this obvious exploitation of the Apple faithful. It's positively archaic. Just to be clear, as the article notes the people standing in line RESERVED a phone. They already have their s…

Makes one miss the truly passionate product fans of days gone by: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajlTIMBbdTg&feature=PlayL...

Oh, they're still here, (un)fortunately.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIEE4dU07G0

For mechanical hamsters of some sort.

Re: We are giving out water

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Analysts are saying Apple may sell 1.5 million iPhones in the first week. A bit more challenging than 250,000. Anyway when it comes to lines these people made a choice. Apple offered to ship it to their door. They may have actually got it a day earlier if they opted for delivery instead. Even if you preferred local pickup Best Buy's pre-orders were fulfilled by appointment. So these people all had choices. For whatev…

Ok, first of all, that's only a factor of six, not the orders of magnitude you seem to be implying. And I don't think you can lay this at the feet of the people standing in line unless they were informed when they made their choice that choosing an Apple store would involve five to ten hour queuing outdoors. I'm guessing Apple didn't say that in the order form, in which case the "choice" was one about which they were…

Isn't it always like this with Apple launches? I'm not saying it's justified, but I don't most people didn't know.

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It is pretty surprising that Apple hasn't been called on this cheap PR. Every person standing in line is being used as a stooge by Apple to get press, and the media always abides. This is the first article I've seen yet that points out this obvious exploitation of the Apple faithful. It's positively archaic. Just to be clear, as the article notes the people standing in line RESERVED a phone. They already have their s…

They should create an app for that. Seriously.

Re: We are giving out water

#87
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It is pretty surprising that Apple hasn't been called on this cheap PR. Every person standing in line is being used as a stooge by Apple to get press, and the media always abides. This is the first article I've seen yet that points out this obvious exploitation of the Apple faithful. It's positively archaic. Just to be clear, as the article notes the people standing in line RESERVED a phone. They already have their s…

The first article this time around... the same story came up with the 3G or whatever the last iPhone was.

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By way of comparison, the Wii launch in my part of Japan was organized with kanban cards and high school student labor. Three cashiers, two pickers, one manager with a clipboard of all reservations and sole responsibility for bowing. They blew through a hundred fifty transactions in 25 minutes. Toyota would have been proud... well, OK, Toyota would have said now do it in 24,but there would have been an edge of pride…

I was working in a Cincinnati bookstore for one of the Harry Potter book releases. I was dressed up as Sirius Black. I think I personally handed out about 250 books at the rate of 3 every 2 seconds, and I was one of only several. We had all of those kids out the door and the doors closed well before 1 am. The kids were entertained by planned activities, and we had the parents come up and pay to get a voucher well ahe…

It may be a little more complicated with the iPhone. They want to up-sell you a lot of accessories "do you need a bumper?" "how about a dock?" and then get you activated with at&t or whatever. I think it can be a fairly time intensive process.

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Ok, first of all, that's only a factor of six, not the orders of magnitude you seem to be implying. And I don't think you can lay this at the feet of the people standing in line unless they were informed when they made their choice that choosing an Apple store would involve five to ten hour queuing outdoors. I'm guessing Apple didn't say that in the order form, in which case the "choice" was one about which they were…

Isn't it always like this with Apple launches? I'm not saying it's justified, but I don't most people didn't know.

it was the same with Windows 95 fifteen years ago. Apple is the new MSFT.

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Is it really, really so bad to wait a couple days or weeks longer to get your precious fucking iPhone? I hate queuing in general, but this is the kind of line-waiting that literally makes no sense at all to me.

> but this is the kind of line-waiting that literally makes no sense at all to me This is a cultural thing :) put a couple of us brits together and we will form a queue. And we will do it with minimal fuss and lots of solidarity. We are damned good at it - and very proud of that. (my "best queue" was 8 hours for a Leeds Festival ticket :))

yeah, but I'd rather queue with you guys for an admission ticket to the Championships (Wimbledon) than for an iPhone...
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