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The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Post by josefresco »

ryandrake wrote: post #176
freehunter wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sending out a link to what? I mean... maybe I'm too young to know what you're referring to, but if I have my local computer, sitting behind a NAT, sitting behind a firewall, sitting behind a personal router, on another NAT, and you're on the other side of the country, what am I sending you a link to? Did every machine have a domain name? Was your local DNS somehow broadcast publicly? Did you just send a link for "C:\…

Simpler times. Public facing IP address, web server running on my machine and serving from /var/httpd/public_html or some similar directory. People go with 3rd parties nowadays for the slick web interface and that they do the "hard" work of setting up bandwidth caps and security for you.

simpler times

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Post by raldi »

vultour wrote: post #178
raldi wrote: post #169

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Reddit has short URLs; they're in the sidebar of every submission, e.g., http://redd.it/6idi12

That goes to the post, when I'm sharing an image I don't want it to load Reddit.

Oh; I'm the opposite: when I come upon a bare image link, I prepend `reddit.com/` to get taken to its reddit discussion. :)

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Post by ben_jones »

So now that Reddit is trying to raise money are we going to get a huge increase in Reddit articles on HN? This is a serious question because everytime a company appears to be in "fundraising mode" the "local news" (HN, Tech Crunch, SF Chronicle) seems to be perforated by positive or optimistic articles for the entity in question.

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Post by icedchai »

freehunter wrote: post #172
ryandrake wrote: post #147

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I remember when “image hosing” meant copying the file into your machine’s public_html directory and sending out a link. Now somehow we need a third party to do this.

Sending out a link to what? I mean... maybe I'm too young to know what you're referring to, but if I have my local computer, sitting behind a NAT, sitting behind a firewall, sitting behind a personal router, on another NAT, and you're on the other side of the country, what am I sending you a link to? Did every machine have a domain name? Was your local DNS somehow broadcast publicly? Did you just send a link for "C:\…

A link to your server. I have servers, at home, on the internet with no NAT, through a business cable ISP.

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Post by freehunter »

amyjess wrote: post #177
freehunter wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sending out a link to what? I mean... maybe I'm too young to know what you're referring to, but if I have my local computer, sitting behind a NAT, sitting behind a firewall, sitting behind a personal router, on another NAT, and you're on the other side of the country, what am I sending you a link to? Did every machine have a domain name? Was your local DNS somehow broadcast publicly? Did you just send a link for "C:\…

Back in the day, the bulk of Internet users were on university networks, and they gave everyone access to Unix systems where anything you put in public_html goes up on the university's website under your username. For example, I went to UTD from 2003 to 2007. This was long after the days of "the bulk of Internet users were on university networks" were over, but the infrastructure was still there. All students had ssh…

Huh. TIL. I didn't think I was that modern having gotten Internet access in the mid 90s, but I wasn't at a university, and by the time I got to university everyone was on a NAT and was behind firewalls.

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Post by MichaelGG »

takeda wrote: post #166
Spivak wrote: post #20

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As it turns out, it's really hard to monetize an S3 bucket at scale.

Things like that makes me wish NDN[1] would succeed. Essentially in this network instead using addressing to address hosts, they address the data. This brings interesting properties, since routers are aware what data is being transferred they can start caching it. In the end no CDNs are needed (network takes care of it) so people can host data themselves without worrying of it getting too popular. [1] https://named-d…

Except the end-user ISPs are quite content with requesting traffic from the providers; they like the imbalance as it gives them something to negotiate with (that's why inbound is free on cloud - they're happy to fight the imbalance). Why would they start caching your images for free?

Also doesn't that mean everyone in between know you're requesting degeneration.jpg? Vs now where they'd only know the domain and maybe could do transfer size analysis? Sort of the opposite direction of TLS everywhere (CloudFlare exempted)?

Also how do you bootstrap it? If I upload some image and it's instantly popular on reddit and generating many Mbps of traffic, don't I have to stick around long enough to get it up and cached? Or would there be free seed services that will get the first several GB out?

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Post by ksk »

komali2 wrote: post #119
tyingq wrote: post #112

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Reddit killed the model that allows them to be financially viable and "not annoying". I suspect the alternative is to shut down. The bit of community that exists solely within imgur can't be enough to subsidize the bandwidth costs of everyone else, can it? Thus far every image hosting site has gone the cycle of initially good, annoying attempts at monetizing, then shutting down. Which, of course, leaves a trail of fo…

I want to talk about that community, because it genuinely boggles my mind. Their culture is as if they were crafted by /r/circlejerk as some sort of cosmic joke. They repeat the same memes ad nauseam, in every post , seemingly completely unaware. They lack any measure of what I consider healthy internet cynicism - if you post a picture of your face and say "I beat cancer!", you're getting upvotes, and there won't be…

Its no more dumb than arguing about editors, or tabs vs spaces, or metal versus opengl. You can introduce dressing to make them seem deep, or re-cast the conversations as being super critical, but all those conversations are about typing shit that goes into a file.

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Post by tscs37 »

hinkley wrote: post #88
digi_owl wrote: post #74

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And most of them were crap because of mess, noisy sites with intrusive ads. The basic problem seems to be that the web has a trust issue, not between users and services. But between services and advertisers. Until that trust issue is solved, so that sites can bring ad hosting under their own domain rather than embed unsupervised ads from third parties, there will be no end to this runaround. That said, inhouse ad man…

Do you think it's possible to create an ethical ad network? It's something I wonder about at least once a month, but I'm not sure if it could compete.

There is projectwonderful, which is serving ethical ads and has a uncomplicated bidding method (bid for a day on a website).

They're explicitly on all my adblocker whitelists since their ads only amount to a PNG image with a link.

The advertisers know where they are advertising, the site owners can control who advertises, the payment is transparent and everyone is happy.

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