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Uber rolls out in-app tipping

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Re: Uber rolls out in-app tipping

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You answered your own question. Why raise prices and risk losing customers when they can just use widely accepted social pressure to coerce you into subsidizing their cost of doing business for free?

For the same reason Uber originally went with the tip-free model for their service?

I can only assume that was when they could more easily afford to do so.

Re: Uber rolls out in-app tipping

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post #2

Why not just raise the prices a bit again? Now I'm worried I'll get down-starred for not tipping on Uber, which is just kind of annoying. I feel like not requiring a tip is Uber's biggest differentiator

You answered your own question. Why raise prices and risk losing customers when they can just use widely accepted social pressure to coerce you into subsidizing their cost of doing business for free?

This is the reason I refused to use Amazon Fresh. I'd rather pay higher subscription prices like with Prime as opposed to tipping every delivery. Even if it's optional, just the existence of the tipping feature adds social pressure.

Re: Uber rolls out in-app tipping

#63
I really liked Uber's no-tip policy as it really did make the whole experience frictionless.

That being said, I believe Lyft pools tips from riders to avoid a tit-for-tat ratings, and drivers to not know if a rider tipped for a particular trip. If Uber follows that model, then perhaps this is a reasonable middle ground.

Re: Uber rolls out in-app tipping

#64
How do people describe Uber? Hey look, it's an app. You push a button and a car shows up. There's no fooling around with calling a company, figuring out a tip, carrying the correct change, worrying about the quality of the ride. You just push the button.

They are destroying their unique selling proposition. I can already push buttons and screw around with cab companies and drivers. I was looking for better than that. Uber's supposed to be no hassle. What the fuck, guys?

Re: Uber rolls out in-app tipping

#66
A rhetorical question: what would it take to build a not-for-profit but 'capitalist' platform like Uber with all the features that exist today (reviews, ratings, scheduled rides etc) where drivers just pay a monthly subscription fee (say $25-100 based on earnings?) and take the entire earnings of the ride?

I understand the marketing costs of getting drivers and riders on the platform but end of the day, if the drivers are going to make more and riders get a similar experience, it would be an obvious choice to switch, wouldn't it?

Put another way, why isn't anyone doing it? I hardly believe that Uber/Lyft's model has a wide defensible moat.

Re: Uber rolls out in-app tipping

#68
post #53

In restaurants, when a waiter is tipped, the kitchen gets part of the money. How would that work with Uber? Will programmers receive part of the tip money?

>In restaurants, when a waiter is tipped, the kitchen gets part of the money.

That practice is highly dependent on the restaurant and locale. In many places, it's illegal to require the waitstaff to pool tips with the kitchen.

https://www.eater.com/2016/2/26/11119264/restaurants-tip-poo...

Re: Uber rolls out in-app tipping

#69
post #53

In restaurants, when a waiter is tipped, the kitchen gets part of the money. How would that work with Uber? Will programmers receive part of the tip money?

Not usually; it's illegal to require a tipout to the kitchen in the US:

http://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/operations/advice-gu...

Re: Uber rolls out in-app tipping

#70

Now I'm going to start using Lyft again. The tipping model is terrible and given the option I'll always shy away from it. Even though Lyft has the same feature, they pay better, so I don't feel bad for not tipping them. Also having to deal with some of the shadier/creepier drivers expecting tips sounds like something I'd rather not deal with.

I loved Lyft's tipping feature and used it over Uber because many times I had to take my cats to the vet and it was nice to be able to tip the driver for the extra hassle. Same was true if I ever took Lyft while taking my sick wife from her work to home and she threw up in the car.

Except, my Lyft ratings kept on tanking, and I didn't even know. At one time I tipped a guy nearly 60% of the tab. Despite of this, my Uber rating were 4.8 and Lyft ratings were 4.0.

Eventually I figured out, it is the way Lyft implemented their tipping mechanism. All tips are combined and given to the driver at the end of the week. I mean what is the point of tipping then?

Since then I only give cash tips.

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