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Re: Working the System at a BigCo

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Why did the employee need to fill out any paperwork to be taken off of the performance plan? Shouldn't that happen at the direction of their manager? Feels a little bit like a deus ex machina.

Normally there is some form of acknowledgement which might just be a check box, but it sounds like the HR process was setup so that step could not be skipped.

Re: Working the System at a BigCo

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Why did the employee need to fill out any paperwork to be taken off of the performance plan? Shouldn't that happen at the direction of their manager? Feels a little bit like a deus ex machina.

Have you not worked at a big company? This is 100% normal for everything.

For the required training I do because my work touches health care: The company has a record of what training I need. It sends me a list of courses. I then have to register for those courses -- within the same company. They can't register me for it on their own. I take the course, get my passing grade and now the course and my training record know that I have a passing grade for the course. So naturally I have to print that out, upload it to another site and mark it complete. Someone in India (literally) checks this. Not done yet, I fill out a paper copy by hand with course numbers and dates and sign it. Upload that and turn in physical copies to my management. If I want credit on the number of hours training I have for the year, I need to update that manually as well. Expect these forms to be kicked back multiple times on the way because the date is in the wrong format or some other reason. Also expect to take multiple forms of the same training within the same training year because it has been repackaged (not new courses, regrouped same courses).

Re: Working the System at a BigCo

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At a prior employer of mine, you accrued 12 sick days per year, up to a maximum of 120 in your bucket at any given time.

If you were ill, you were permitted to use as many of your accrued sick days as necessary. In any given calendar year you could take five sick days without any documentation, but the rest had to come with a note from a doctor indicating you were too ill to work.

There was also a company policy that stupidly tried to incentivize attendance at work: if you used no sick days in a year, you would receive a "bonus" vacation day to use the following year. Setting aside how this incentivizes people to come into work when they're sick, it also set up an perverse incentive after an employee actually had to call in sick.

Suppose you had to actually take a sick day due to illness. That day off cost you the free extra vacation day next year. Now you may as well just "call in sick" later in the year and exercise your remaining un-validated sick days.

Re: Working the System at a BigCo

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post #16

I had a guy work for me once, I was trying to transition him from hourly to salaried. He had some longer weeks prior to this, and made the assumption that this would always be the case. He said, "I don't want to do this, because I will make more money this way." Sounds like the article, right? Except ... this extra time was a very temporary scenario, and he would be getting benefits, an effective hourly raise, etc. E…

Hey... that sounds similar to what happened under the Howard Government in Australia. The then new PM John Howard thought that the bureaucracy was lazy and bloated (and in some ways, it was). So he sacked a good proportion of workers, and set about his legislative and national agenda, only to realise (much like Trump is now!) that you actually need people to make this work.

So not able to increase the numbers he employed, it was decided to bring in contractors to do the same work. Many of them were former workers at the same departments. However, there were less of them, but they still cost a lot more. Then the government started to realise they needed some way of overseeing their work, but they didn't have enough staff to do so, so they employed people to check on the contractors' work. As the workload was still high, they kept employing more contractors, and you guessed it - more supervisors.

By the time Howard left office, he was employing three times the number of people than the previous Labor government.

Re: Working the System at a BigCo

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post #22

Why did the employee need to fill out any paperwork to be taken off of the performance plan? Shouldn't that happen at the direction of their manager? Feels a little bit like a deus ex machina.

Have you not worked at a big company? This is 100% normal for everything. For the required training I do because my work touches health care: The company has a record of what training I need. It sends me a list of courses. I then have to register for those courses -- within the same company. They can't register me for it on their own. I take the course, get my passing grade and now the course and my training record k…

I currently work for a large corporation. This is not 100% normal for everything. This wasn't a training, this was the fundamental employment status of the employee. I don't need to sign any paperwork to accept a raise or promotion, etc. I've never been put on a PP but I'm guessing my company wouldn't require the employee to handle any paperwork if they came off of it either.

Luckily our training system sounds more streamlined than yours. Different strokes for different companies I guess.

Re: Working the System at a BigCo

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post #22

Why did the employee need to fill out any paperwork to be taken off of the performance plan? Shouldn't that happen at the direction of their manager? Feels a little bit like a deus ex machina.

Have you not worked at a big company? This is 100% normal for everything. For the required training I do because my work touches health care: The company has a record of what training I need. It sends me a list of courses. I then have to register for those courses -- within the same company. They can't register me for it on their own. I take the course, get my passing grade and now the course and my training record k…

Tell them you don't any training on Lean Six Sigma, then ask to apply it to the training process. Never use it for anything else. Ta da!

Re: Working the System at a BigCo

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I was happiest at a place where I was either paid 70% of the billed hours (client pays $100 per hour, I get $70, company get $30) with the company doing weekly paycheck (withholding the taxes, W-2, and handling the health insurance & 401k payments), or 90/10 split on a 1090 (but paid long before the client paid). I went with the 70% because I was a bit scarred of mucking up.

It is amazing how enthusiastic you can be in hour 50 with that situation. I frankly think its unhealthy but at least there was a pain point for requiring it and that pain ($) also benefited me.

Re: Working the System at a BigCo

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post #17

In a past life, I ran a consulting team at a BigCo whose business centered on T&M contracts like OP's. BigCo had 10k employees, mostly associated 1:1 to contracts with the same "bill exactly 40 hrs, but never overhead" constrains. Our little team had 100 employees, but we matrixed those guys across all our contracts. While the clients disliked the idea of not having "their guy," they really liked having access to the…

is it still all guys their?

Re: Working the System at a BigCo

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post #17

In a past life, I ran a consulting team at a BigCo whose business centered on T&M contracts like OP's. BigCo had 10k employees, mostly associated 1:1 to contracts with the same "bill exactly 40 hrs, but never overhead" constrains. Our little team had 100 employees, but we matrixed those guys across all our contracts. While the clients disliked the idea of not having "their guy," they really liked having access to the…

It is more inclusive to use to "people" or some other gender neutral term.

Re: Working the System at a BigCo

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Why did the employee need to fill out any paperwork to be taken off of the performance plan? Shouldn't that happen at the direction of their manager? Feels a little bit like a deus ex machina.

If they change your status without you knowing or acknowledging, that opens up all kinds of legal issues.
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