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Re: Django Hidden Hires

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Post by carbon8 »

shadowsun7 wrote: post #8

This is new. Is it me, or does Django seem to be picking up steam (vs Rails et al)? Don't remember seeing calls for Django developers before.

It looks like it's mostly just that the job market is getting better overall; there are more jobs across the board. For example, about 9 months ago I looked up the number of jobs for PHP, Rails and Django on various job sites http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=805931 Here are the old and current numbers compared:

SimplyHired - PHP: 10726 to 15993, Rails: 2553 to 3823, Django: 328 to 926

Startuply - PHP: 280 to 488, Rails: 121 to 230, Django: 35 to 66

StartUpHire - PHP: 458 to 549, Rails: 119 to 152, Django: 9 to 25

Re: Django Hidden Hires

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Post by krosaen »

yesimahuman wrote: post #6

Interesting, but I'm a bit shy about hiring people through channels like this, worried that they really have only worked with Django or only want to work with Django.

yeah, if my website happened to be in django, I'd still be happy to hire great developers who haven't happened to work with django before. is this the new java certified?

Re: Django Hidden Hires

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Post by yesimahuman »

forsaken wrote: post #9
yesimahuman wrote: post #6

Interesting, but I'm a bit shy about hiring people through channels like this, worried that they really have only worked with Django or only want to work with Django.

Part of the point is that we pre-screen developers (and employers) to ensure that people are high quality -- and that they have actually used Django before. We are requiring open source code to be shown (or having a good reason for not having any). Along with doing basic interview-style questions to prove that you actually understand Django on a non-trivial level.

I guess my biggest fear would be to find a "fanboy". Is there some kind of screening process for that?

I love django just as much as the next guy but no technology is the end all.

Re: Django Hidden Hires

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Post by simonw »

shadowsun7 wrote: post #8

This is new. Is it me, or does Django seem to be picking up steam (vs Rails et al)? Don't remember seeing calls for Django developers before.

http://djangogigs.com/ has new jobs showing up every few days, despite being an ultra-niche site. My experience is that the Django job market has been very healthy for several years now.

Re: Django Hidden Hires

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Post by grasshoper »

I feel that the market right now for Django is still too small for something like this to really work. Even the open Django job boards like http://www.djangogigs.com are pretty barren. How are you going to convince employers to fork over money without proof that there are lots of talented Django developers behind the walls of your site? And how are you going to convince developers to go through the trouble of opening up their code and submitting to tests without proof that it might get them access to lots of top-notch employers?

Re: Django Hidden Hires

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Post by akavlie »

orblivion wrote: post #13

What if you're a "pretty good" developer, or a "great" developer? Why is there only ever a market for "awesome" developers?

What, didn't you know that's how developers are made these days? That's how they come, standard issue: awesome rockstars. With 5 years of experience.

That's the impression I get from most job postings, anyway.

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