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DMV as in Department of Motor Vehicles. Many states have names like that hence "DMV"
No evidence here that you can get someone's birthday from any state-run DMV
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#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
No evidence here that you can get someone's birthday from any state-run DMV
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/?1dmy&urile=wcm:path:/dmv_...
How is that evidence? Birthday isn't included and it notes,
> "Note: Residence address and SSN are confidential except when the requester is authorized by law to receive it."
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Um, no. Your birthday is certainly not private information. Births are openly published in the local paper and online. Not to mention stuff like this - http://www.wfsb.com/story/26835982/website-displaying-voters...
Um, yes. It certainly is. I don't want it released publicly, nor have I consented to release it to any website. If there are websites out there sharing that private information, they're doing it without my consent.
If you don't want it released publicly, a better chance is to ask you parents didn't do it when gave you birth. No offense, many places, like small towns will list birth of child on local newspaper if parents sign a form after birth in the hospital among a pile of forms.
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its the aggregation and easily searchable format for 2/3 of citizens that makes this REALLY dangerous for identity theft. they were still grossly irresponsible. no consequences will happen though.
It's already aggregated and easily searchable. Seriously. You could, in the next 10 minutes, go purchase a national voter file with all this info on 190 million plus voters. Just Google "national voter file purchase". Those are pre-aggregated, and honestly, really cheap (Usually ~2k). You can also aggregate it yourself for less if you want.
Are you saying there's a $2k national voter file? Where?
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#325So you think it is okay to model ethnicity and religion of 200 milion citizens? This is how my country got all their jews killed in WWII [0]. The mere thought of compiling such information here would lead to some hefty jail time these days. I really cannot believe you can even defend such a thing. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_registration#Netherlands
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14587602 and marked it off-topic.
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Um, yes. It certainly is. I don't want it released publicly, nor have I consented to release it to any website. If there are websites out there sharing that private information, they're doing it without my consent.
If you don't want it released publicly, a better chance is to ask you parents didn't do it when gave you birth. No offense, many places, like small towns will list birth of child on local newspaper if parents sign a form after birth in the hospital among a pile of forms.
It may be discoverable in that way, but that doesn't mean government entities are or should be disclosing names with birthdays en masse. Certainly not the entire country's all at once, which is what the RNC appears to have done.
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> Just because some skeezy website shares all my personal information does not make it public information. I kinda think it does mean exactly that. Just because you don't want something to be public doesn't mean that it isn't public.
So do you consider your daily schedule, gps locations of where you go, to be public information? Nothing about the definition of public or private restrict either to being protected by the government. I can consider some information private without it being protected in the legal sense. That said, I expect that any government entity that released my birthday would be held responsible for a data leak.
> So do you consider your daily schedule, gps locations of where you go, to be public information?
Nope. What's your point?
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#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/?1dmy&urile=wcm:path:/dmv_...
How is that evidence? Birthday isn't included and it notes, > "Note: Residence address and SSN are confidential except when the requester is authorized by law to receive it."
>The Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) maintains information on approximately 32 million vehicles/vessels registration (VR), 27 million driver licenses (DL) and/or identification (ID) cards, and over 437,000 occupational licensing (OL) records.
>Confidential information is not considered public record. This includes certain DMV personnel matters, physical/mental information, residence address, social security number (SSN), incomplete findings from research, results of ongoing investigations, operation plans, and electronic data security controls.
DOB is listed on ID and not considered confidential information.
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#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's already aggregated and easily searchable. Seriously. You could, in the next 10 minutes, go purchase a national voter file with all this info on 190 million plus voters. Just Google "national voter file purchase". Those are pre-aggregated, and honestly, really cheap (Usually ~2k). You can also aggregate it yourself for less if you want.
Are you saying there's a $2k national voter file? Where?
He mentioned this in another thread:
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Birthday is almost certainly public. You can get it easily from the DMV or from any of several dozen commercial providers that resell government data: https://www.dmv.org/public-records/ That it's used to confirm identity shows how weak identity-theft protections are at most institutions, not what's public information. (For that matter, mother's maiden name is basically public information as well: you can get it from…
Yes, the only reason that anyone cares about their date of birth is that in recent times it has been something that can be used in identity theft. Back in the pre-internet days, nobody cared. People had their SSNs pre-printed on their personal checks too. The solution to all of this data privacy hysteria is to change our approach. The possession of common facts about a person should not be sufficient to masquerade as…
> The solution to all of this data privacy hysteria is to change our approach. The possession of common facts about a person should not be sufficient to masquerade as that person
I think the solution is better security. We'll only ever have basic facts to uniquely identify people. Biometrics can be hacked/copied too.