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Re: Ask HN: What motivates you to do what you do?

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I'm motivated by Freedom. I have a goal to make myself and those around me free from the burden of financial responsibility, and geographical and time constraints. I don't want to have to do a job I don't want for money because I have a mortgage or bills to pay. I don't want to be dictated where I need to be in the world at any given time or how I should manage my time. I want this freedom and I will get it, because I can. My aim is not to be filthy rich (though I won't cry if by freak accident that happens). I just want to remove 3rd parties from having control over those particular freedoms.

Edit: At the same time, I am doing something I love to achieve this goal, so even if it takes me longer than I expected, in the meanwhile I'm enjoying myself and being compensated nicely for this.

Re: Ask HN: What motivates you to do what you do?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think OP is talking about Doctors without Borders. He's talking about the super hyped engineer at a big Ad company who says she's extremely passionate about her job. This sort of attitude is very common in the U.S., in my experience.

Ok, sure, but the OP didn't qualify his/her statements that 90%+ of us are lying when we say we're anything other than financially motivated. I'm attacking the assertion that we simply can't be intrinsically motivated by things that matter to us. That said, I do know engineers that work at startups and actually are pumped by the vision - they're excited about what they're building and what it could mean for the futur…

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Re: Ask HN: What motivates you to do what you do?

#33

That I need money and this is my best choice. I would guess 90+% of people who say theres anything more to it than this are lying to you and probably themselves. There are people with broader aspirations, but actually just saying you have some deep passion is a part of the culture, and in most cases, I don't think true.

It's probably true in your corner of the world, but holding on to this jaded view will do nothing but help you to stay in there. There's another world out there.

Re: Ask HN: What motivates you to do what you do?

#34
There are two kinds of motivation. There is the desire for the project itself and there is the desire to work on the project. I would be overjoyed if one day, I pulled from master and found that the project I’m working on was perfectly complete!

But until that day, I have to find some way to keep on plugging away: planning, coding, testing, debugging, doing art, marketing, etc. It’s one of those things that maintains momentum through good developer experience and forcing myself to spend a little time on it every day.

And one day it will be done, and I’ll be able to step back and say “Wow. I made a thing.” Honestly, I don’t know if it will be that great of a feeling. But the anticipated satisfaction of a job well done, including the approval of my customers, is something that motivates me.

I’ll add that family can be super motivating too. Of course, I want to provide for them. But working on a side project and having your wife come by and say “That looks cool” is a pretty good feeling.

Re: Ask HN: What motivates you to do what you do?

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The Happy Dance You know the feeling, when you get something working for the first time. Something that has never been done before and will never be done the first time ever again. And you just did it. You received input, thought about it, build it, tested it, changed it, stewed about it, agonized over it, redid it, and finally, finally, got output. Often beyond your wildest expectations. And you lept out of your cha…

That's how I feel when things come together: http://imgur.com/0uUIa06

Re: Ask HN: What motivates you to do what you do?

#36
At work, I enjoy tinkering and have the opportunity to go solve interesting problems.

At home - I enjoy tinkering and that feeling of accomplishment with a job well done, whether that's washing my car, or making my home automation system do things that it wasn't intended to do.

If I think about it - these are both driven by a desire to be known as someone who can "do things," i.e. "I want the credit." [1]

[1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pm-5gWhJ3qY

Re: Ask HN: What motivates you to do what you do?

#37

That I need money and this is my best choice. I would guess 90+% of people who say theres anything more to it than this are lying to you and probably themselves. There are people with broader aspirations, but actually just saying you have some deep passion is a part of the culture, and in most cases, I don't think true.

I disagree. Once a certain skill level is achieved, money can be taken off the table. When you have a six figure salary, more money is not as significant as it once was. After this threshold is crossed, you gain the luxury of mostly choosing where to work.

I definitely notice a huge difference in desire to get up in the morning depending on the importance of what I'm working on. If it's menial or ultimately unimportant work, I can feel burned out working 30-40 hour weeks. If it's world changing stuff that's never been done before and will save thousands or millions of lives, I feel engaged working 60-80 hours a week.

When an employer is trying to recruit me, they don't need to offer more money than everyone else. They need to sell me on the importance of what I will be working on. For example, autonomous vehicles present continuous research and engineering challenges for which you often must provide the first solution anyone has ever devised. This addresses the problem of menial work. Accelerating the overall global development, production, and adoption of autonomous vehicles by a single day could save over a thousand lives. This addresses the problem of importance of work.

At the end of the day, money is secondary. I need enough that I don't need to worry about struggling financially; but, the primary reason I will accept an offer has nothing to do with money. We spend a large portion of our lives working. So, we better enjoy whatever it is that we do.

Re: Ask HN: What motivates you to do what you do?

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post #31

I'm motivated by Freedom. I have a goal to make myself and those around me free from the burden of financial responsibility, and geographical and time constraints. I don't want to have to do a job I don't want for money because I have a mortgage or bills to pay. I don't want to be dictated where I need to be in the world at any given time or how I should manage my time. I want this freedom and I will get it, because…

Just looked at your profile seeking contact details.

Similar motivations here.

Freedom... I think it is possible to create a company around a common set of values?

Re: Ask HN: What motivates you to do what you do?

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post #33

That I need money and this is my best choice. I would guess 90+% of people who say theres anything more to it than this are lying to you and probably themselves. There are people with broader aspirations, but actually just saying you have some deep passion is a part of the culture, and in most cases, I don't think true.

It's probably true in your corner of the world, but holding on to this jaded view will do nothing but help you to stay in there. There's another world out there.

"There is another world out there"

Yeah, it's called a personal life. Work is basically that thing I do to make the stuff I do in my personal life possible or more comfortable. Or simply not starve. Would I rather have some sort of enjoyment in the work I do? Yeah, but the truth is I can be happy enough doing janitorial work or working retail so long as the work environment and pay is good enough. It is just a job, after all, even when the pay is good or it takes studying. While a few folks might hit the work/job lottery and get something they actually enjoy, I think work is just a job for most folks. It isn't cynical or jaded. It simply is.

Would I work if I won a lottery or if I didn't need money? Nope. Definitely not. I might have a few projects that look kinda like work if lottery-rich, but the truth is I'd just hire folks to do most of it for me. I'd mostly want to travel and make artwork and try out different sorts of hobbies. I'd work on getting weird and eccentric.

Re: Ask HN: What motivates you to do what you do?

#40
Money. I work for a large Enterprise software company and we are not "changing the world." That's fine, by the way, but the answer is money and it always has been.

I have two young children at home and nothing is going to come close to making me feel as fulfilled as being their father. Since we need money to live I have to go away for 8-9 hours a day, working on CRUD applications and their supporting systems. What keeps me in my seat is the money I can eventually bring home to to my wife and children.

To a non-parent this may seem a somewhat bleak and uninspiring vision of what we do as software developers, but the truth is that being able to provide for my family is one of the most intensely satisfying enterprises I have ever taken-on. It allows us to put good, healthy food on the table and live in a neighborhood with walking trails and a nearby lake. My children sleep in comfortable beds. The temperature in our home is always appropriate.

If I can't spend the bulk of my time with my family then next best thing is producing money that directly benefits them.

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