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Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O

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#81

I'm going to be in the market for a new mattress soon, so might as well "Ask HN": Can anyone recommend a mattress with a reasonable price that I can buy in Europe (Germany, specifically)?

All these trendy mattress companies have 100 day free trials. My advice is to try them all and pick the one that you like the best.

I have a Leesa which is good (I tried Casper previously), it's also available in Germany. https://www.leesa.de/

Reasonable price though? Perhaps not... someone else posted a link to a DIY site though, which is probably worth trying. All these companies are basically selling you three or four layers of off the shelf foam.

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#82

I got a sour taste in my mouth for Casper when I learned of their Federal lawsuits against affiliate bloggers who reviewed their product. I personally felt like Sleepopolis's review of Casper was as fair and observational as one could get with such a thing. Lawsuit Details: https://sleepopolis.com/blog/casper-sues-sleepopolis-with-fe... Casper Mattress Review: https://sleepopolis.com/mattress-reviews/casper-mattress-…

> After months of discovery (the process where both parties in a lawsuit exchange documents pertinent to their case) it has come to light that Casper may be responsible for a web attack against Sleepopolis. This attack was aimed at reducing Sleepopolis’ traffic and attempted to prevent consumers from finding Sleepopolis via search engines. As a result of the documents uncovered in discovery Sleepopolis has filed a counter lawsuit against Casper for this attack.

Jesus Christ that's awful.

Also, from the initial complaint:

> 2. In early 2014, Casper launched as an innovative new sleep start-up, radically disrupting the traditional mattress industry with one mattress sold directly to consumers online with a risk free in-home trial—eliminating mattress stores and their inflated prices. Casper’s unique approach sought to create a universally comfortable product with a sleek design delivered straight to your door without the need for commission-driven salespeople working in retail Case 1:16-cv-03223 Document 1 Filed 04/29/16 Page 1 of 20 stores. Instead, Casper offers its mattresses directly to consumers via its e-commerce website. Casper immediately struck a chord with consumers, generating $1 million in sales within its first month

That might be new for the US, but the UK had Ergoflex selling memory foam mattresses direct to consumers in 2006. They only have one product, but in different sizes.

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#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is absolutely insane, this "unlawful" review is as informative and objective as it gets: https://sleepopolis.com/mattress-reviews/tuft-and-needle-vs-... You shouldn't be able to sue someone for writing a review, this reeks of violating one's First Amendment rights.

Reading the complaint ( https://sleepopolis.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/caspers-a... ) it looks like Casper is suing them for not disclosing their referral links are referral links whilst alleging that they steer people away from products they don't get good referrals on. I have no idea about the basis or any of the details but it's not just "wrote review, got sued".

Here's a review from just before the first complaint. It doesn't seem to mention any affiliate money.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160427113129/http://sleepopoli...

So, that might be a relevant complaint.

I'm not sure why, now the site has the needed disclosures, it's okay for Casper to keep up the lawsuit.

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#84
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That's what's happening

Where? I want a cheap good mattress and Casper just seems to be expensive.

There are plenty of cheap yet decent foam mattresses on Amazon. Check out the "Lucid" ones. They have a variety of firmness to choose from ... I don't use it as a daily sleeper but slept on one recently and it was quite nice. Plus it's one fifth of the price of Casper or traditional inner spring ones.

If you really want to score a deal on one, find the one you want and track it via CamelCamelCamel. The prices change daily and if you're patient, you can get it for 30-35% less than the top line price.

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#85
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That's what's happening

Where? I want a cheap good mattress and Casper just seems to be expensive.

Casper is 20% of the price of the mattress store.

Is your price target like $50 for a queen?

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#86

I tried a bed in a box from another well rated brand and didn't like it. Felt fine for a few days but gave me back problems after a week. I think there's a reason hotels aren't using these foam mattresses--most people don't like them. I see this as a fad to be honest, but I could also be wrong.

I have had my foam mattress for going on 10 years. Its great.

Very important not to go too soft. You need more dense foam after the top few softer inches. Im not sure bed in a box can ever fit this dense of foam. My foam mattress is 300 pounds and would take a really big box.

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#87
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any recommendations on making your own foam mattress?

Check out the DIY threads here: https://www.themattressunderground.com/mattress-forum/index.... . You usually have some kind of firm base, a middle layer, and a soft top layer. I went with a firm latex layer (44 ILD), a medium latex layer (30 ILD) [1], and a wool topper [2]. Very comfortable with good support, and a decent amount of bounce. [1] https://sleeponlatex.com/products/natural-latex-mattress-top... [2] https…

I was under the impression this might have information about moulding and pouring your own mattress, but you are referring to buying your own components to stack up into a mattress correct?

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#88
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I'm not convinced that a mattress is even a useful product. I have been mattress free for about a third of my life and it's basically fine. The best argument for sleeping on a bed that I've heard is "chicks don't dig it", which has not been my experience, certainly not once you get through the door. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

What are you sleeping on instead?

I would imagine a hammock or the floor. I have friends that prefer both.
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