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Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O

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Re: Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O

#11

good luck, there are like 10 clones out there already

"It's exceptionally rare for startups to be killed by competitors—so rare that you can almost discount the possibility."

- Paul Graham (http://paulgraham.com/startupideas.html)

Re: Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O

#13

good luck, there are like 10 clones out there already

"It's exceptionally rare for startups to be killed by competitors—so rare that you can almost discount the possibility." - Paul Graham ( http://paulgraham.com/startupideas.html )

Yes we all remember when Facebook failed to defeat MySpace...

Re: Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O

#14
Worth listening to this story from Marketplace: Why are there so many mattress stores?

https://www.marketplace.org/2016/05/02/world/why-are-there-s...

Basically, mattresses in the US are sold at a very high markup (couple hundred times the cost) so it's an easy way to make money.

Re: Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It's exceptionally rare for startups to be killed by competitors—so rare that you can almost discount the possibility." - Paul Graham ( http://paulgraham.com/startupideas.html )

Yes we all remember when Facebook failed to defeat MySpace...

One example is not indicative of the larger picture

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In the UK, Eve, a rival maker also just (around a month ago) IPO'd here in the UK. Their figures are scary at the moment, with a CPA hovering around £250-£300 and returns of 15% on the mattresses with the 100-night trial. All that with an average order value was only £450, on a product people buy every 10 years! They lost £11.3m last year on earnings of £12m, so no wonder their shares have been on the decline since I…

That is a staggering CPA vis a vis product cost. Is that just based on the congestion of keyword bidding? Or does CPA actually mean conversion/sale and the path to close is very difficult? I feel like Amazon could swoop in with a competitive offering and obliterate the competition, if marketing and acquisition were the only barriers to success. They've also got a lot of distribution infrastructure they can leverage,…

Amazon is scary, startups can develop a new product and spend millions on consumer education and establishing a market, working out kinks, etc, and once it's proven Amazon can simply swoop in and dominate the market (almost any market with their breadth and network advantages).

Re: Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It's exceptionally rare for startups to be killed by competitors—so rare that you can almost discount the possibility." - Paul Graham ( http://paulgraham.com/startupideas.html )

Yes we all remember when Facebook failed to defeat MySpace...

Also how MySpace failed to defeat Friendster.

Re: Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O

#18
I got a sour taste in my mouth for Casper when I learned of their Federal lawsuits against affiliate bloggers who reviewed their product. I personally felt like Sleepopolis's review of Casper was as fair and observational as one could get with such a thing.

Lawsuit Details: https://sleepopolis.com/blog/casper-sues-sleepopolis-with-fe...

Casper Mattress Review: https://sleepopolis.com/mattress-reviews/casper-mattress-rev...

Re: Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O

#19
For those looking for a new mattress, I'd highly recommend Thr Mattress Underground[0]. It's an unbelievably comprehensive resource for mattress reviews and discussion, and goes into great detail about the mattress industry in general (and the "disruptors" including Casper, among others).

[0] https://www.themattressunderground.com

Re: Casper, Mattress Maker, Raises $170M and Plans I.P.O

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes we all remember when Facebook failed to defeat MySpace...

One example is not indicative of the larger picture

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