Im pretty critical of aspects of fb, but it's hard to take this blog seriously. The same author has a recent post ( http://theartificialintelligenceblog.com/being-overheard/ ) referencing the terrible WhatsApp guardian article written in January, something declared as false journalism by several researchers: http://technosociology.org/?page_id=1687
Real name policies and ruling the world
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Re: Real name policies and ruling the world
#12I understand the concept of a click bait headline, but "inherently evil" is a bit strong for a service that is completely optional.
"Do not use the Internet. Do not use phones. Do not use bank accounts. Do not travel by plane. Do not enter public spaces. Do not show your face. Otherwise you accept our Terms of Service. Thank you for trusting us." (C) QuantumRoar, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12958035
Exactly, the inherent problem is the creation of shadow profiles of non Facebook users. The most annoying part is the fact that they can make your friends snitch on you, just in case you're not using your real name
Re: Real name policies and ruling the world
#13I understand the concept of a click bait headline, but "inherently evil" is a bit strong for a service that is completely optional.
Technically optional, but as it encloses the common forum, decreasingly so.
Re: Real name policies and ruling the world
#14I understand the concept of a click bait headline, but "inherently evil" is a bit strong for a service that is completely optional.
"Do not use the Internet. Do not use phones. Do not use bank accounts. Do not travel by plane. Do not enter public spaces. Do not show your face. Otherwise you accept our Terms of Service. Thank you for trusting us." (C) QuantumRoar, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12958035
Still use all those things to your heart's content; just don't create a Facebook account...
Re: Real name policies and ruling the world
#15Without real names, Facebook would be as junky as Myspace was.
Re: Real name policies and ruling the world
#16Despite the assurances from Facebook, I've seen no evidence that these policies help anything, and plenty of evidence that they cause problems. Here are a few things that Facebook could answer that might help clear this up:
1. What specific kinds of abuses are primarily due to someone's name, and what percentage of total abuses do they constitute?
2. What criteria does Facebook use to determine if a name is "real"?
3. Under what authority can Facebook compel government issued identification to release suspensions on accounts that are "under review"?
There are many more things that need to be answered, but having data points to answer those questions would be a fantastic start.
Re: Real name policies and ruling the world
#17Despite the assurances from Facebook, I've seen no evidence that these policies help anything, and plenty of evidence that they cause problems. Here are a few things that Facebook could answer that might help clear this up: 1. What specific kinds of abuses are primarily due to someone's name, and what percentage of total abuses do they constitute? 2. What criteria does Facebook use to determine if a name is "real"? 3…
Facebook can ask for identification under the same authority that you can ask to see someone's identification before letting them into your house.
Re: Real name policies and ruling the world
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Do not use the Internet. Do not use phones. Do not use bank accounts. Do not travel by plane. Do not enter public spaces. Do not show your face. Otherwise you accept our Terms of Service. Thank you for trusting us." (C) QuantumRoar, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12958035
Still use all those things to your heart's content; just don't create a Facebook account...
When 99% of your friends use Facebook, it becomes very hard to avoid it [0]. If you want to advertise your new book among them, what would you do, for example?
Re: Real name policies and ruling the world
#19Despite the assurances from Facebook, I've seen no evidence that these policies help anything, and plenty of evidence that they cause problems. Here are a few things that Facebook could answer that might help clear this up: 1. What specific kinds of abuses are primarily due to someone's name, and what percentage of total abuses do they constitute? 2. What criteria does Facebook use to determine if a name is "real"? 3…
Facebook can ask for identification under the same authority that you can ask to see someone's identification before letting them into your house.
The difference is that I'm not retaining any data when I do this, which opens the door to questions about data use and data retention. I've seen no statements from Facebook about how the data is used, how it is stored, and how long it is retained.
Another difference is that Facebook suspends you when you are already using Facebook. The analogy would be more apt if you let someone into your house, they hung out for a few hours, and then you physically remove them, and don't let them back in unless they show you an ID.
Re: Real name policies and ruling the world
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Facebook can ask for identification under the same authority that you can ask to see someone's identification before letting them into your house.
The difference is that I'm not retaining any data when I do this, which opens the door to questions about data use and data retention. I've seen no statements from Facebook about how the data is used, how it is stored, and how long it is retained. Another difference is that Facebook suspends you when you are already using Facebook. The analogy would be more apt if you let someone into your house, they hung out for a…
Do you agree that you would have the authority to ask to take a picture of someone's identification before allowing them into your house?