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Will Vue.js become a giant like Angular or React?

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Re: Will Vue.js become a giant like Angular or React?

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Post by amelius »

petilon wrote: post #11

Vue.js is a step backwards, relative to React, in my opinion. What I love about React is JSX (or TSX if using TypeScript). JSX is a combination of JavaScript and HTML syntaxes. You don't need to learn a new syntax in order to incorporate loops and conditionals in the view layer, thanks to JSX: you just use JavaScript. More importantly, you get compile-time verification. If you use a JavaScript variable in JSX and som…

How you write the elements really isn't a very important aspect of an application. It's just convenience.

Re: Will Vue.js become a giant like Angular or React?

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Post by ausjke »

Gigablah wrote: post #38
ausjke wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it always amazes me how one person project such as vuejs and laravel can compete against with the frameworks made by giants such as google and facebook. yes there are more developers involved in vuejs and laravel now but the two main authors are still the king to rule these two extremely popular projects, truly amazing.

Laravel is built on top of Symfony components, though.

it does use some symfony components along with some other open source components, however it orchestras a great masterpiece and does keep its own taste to stand out.

Re: Will Vue.js become a giant like Angular or React?

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Post by camus2 »

sergiotapia wrote: post #7

After being burned really badly by Ember and Meteor, I'm probably never going to use tools that are all-in-ones ever again. With React I get something laser-focused, just does 1 thing well and that's it. With Vue, I have to buy into the entire ecosystem. I don't want to experience what I did with ember and meteor ever again in my professional life. I think about all the great developers I've worked with and I looked…

> With Vue, I have to buy into the entire ecosystem.

Vue is really just a component framework that deals with the view, it doesn't do Ajax, it doesn't even do routing and don't force a backend or a database like Meteor.

Re: Will Vue.js become a giant like Angular or React?

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Post by cjalmeida »

unclebucknasty wrote: post #54
petilon wrote: post #11

Vue.js is a step backwards, relative to React, in my opinion. What I love about React is JSX (or TSX if using TypeScript). JSX is a combination of JavaScript and HTML syntaxes. You don't need to learn a new syntax in order to incorporate loops and conditionals in the view layer, thanks to JSX: you just use JavaScript. More importantly, you get compile-time verification. If you use a JavaScript variable in JSX and som…

Funny to read this--talk about the benefits of strong-typing, etc. The dynamic nature of JS was once a benefit. Granted, it wasn't initially purposed for full-out browser facing SPAs, etc. Still, strong-typing has been with us forever and, in general, I feel like we've solved this problem. I'd like to see a light-weight VM framework that supports Java code compiled down to JS, with an in-browser Swing-like component…

Check Vaadin. Might suit your taste.

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Post by seanwilson »

petilon wrote: post #11

Vue.js is a step backwards, relative to React, in my opinion. What I love about React is JSX (or TSX if using TypeScript). JSX is a combination of JavaScript and HTML syntaxes. You don't need to learn a new syntax in order to incorporate loops and conditionals in the view layer, thanks to JSX: you just use JavaScript. More importantly, you get compile-time verification. If you use a JavaScript variable in JSX and som…

> More importantly, you get compile-time verification. If you use a JavaScript variable in JSX and someone deletes that variable you find out about this issue at compile time. This is very important for large projects that multiple developers are working on together.

I'm still amazed people argue that statically typed languages don't make you more productive compared to dynamically typed languages.

Re: Will Vue.js become a giant like Angular or React?

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Post by aarpmcgee »

sergiotapia wrote: post #7

After being burned really badly by Ember and Meteor, I'm probably never going to use tools that are all-in-ones ever again. With React I get something laser-focused, just does 1 thing well and that's it. With Vue, I have to buy into the entire ecosystem. I don't want to experience what I did with ember and meteor ever again in my professional life. I think about all the great developers I've worked with and I looked…

+1, Ember especially. Never encountered a framework with so many foot-guns and poorly documented conventions for avoiding said foot-guns.

Re: Will Vue.js become a giant like Angular or React?

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Post by yunyu »

seanwilson wrote: post #76
petilon wrote: post #11

Vue.js is a step backwards, relative to React, in my opinion. What I love about React is JSX (or TSX if using TypeScript). JSX is a combination of JavaScript and HTML syntaxes. You don't need to learn a new syntax in order to incorporate loops and conditionals in the view layer, thanks to JSX: you just use JavaScript. More importantly, you get compile-time verification. If you use a JavaScript variable in JSX and som…

> More importantly, you get compile-time verification. If you use a JavaScript variable in JSX and someone deletes that variable you find out about this issue at compile time. This is very important for large projects that multiple developers are working on together. I'm still amazed people argue that statically typed languages don't make you more productive compared to dynamically typed languages.

Vue templates are checked at compile time with the default runtime-only distribution, and the DSL it uses is arguably more checkable than JSX.

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Post by jolux »

sgustard wrote: post #64
emn13 wrote: post #31

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He's definitely not wrong. Vue.js supports and promotes templates (e.g. right on the very "get started" page the homepage links to: https://vuejs.org/v2/guide/#Conditionals-and-Loops ) with yet another NIH looping and conditional syntax. Perhaps it's possible to avoid - but that kind of flexibility simply encourages messy codebases.

JSX is not a requirement for React. React has the same kind of flexibility you are criticizing. https://facebook.github.io/react/docs/react-without-jsx.html

Not a requirement per se, sure, but it's strongly suggested and other usages are not idiomatic.

Re: Will Vue.js become a giant like Angular or React?

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Post by sgustard »

shaneos wrote: post #41
munchor wrote: post #25

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A comment on the linked article actually mentions that it was indeed contracted. Very disingenuous indeed by the article's writer.

Right, it's just as valid (that is to say it is not at all) to claim that this comment thread uses Vue since it discusses it. YCombinator runs Hacker News on Vue now! It's a shame since it's otherwise a well written article

Not the same at all. To say that the site newsfeed.fb.com uses Vue is a fact. To say that Facebook owns and operates that site is a fact. The valid point is that Facebook is a large company made up of many people and not a monolithic entity.
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