HEADLINE SELinux installed by default DESCRIPTION Not sure what else to say...
Please no.. Apparmor is far more usable and functionally equivalent.
Why not both?
In the docker world, it would be a huge improvement.
Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?
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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?
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> rename testing to something with a positive > connotation that doesn't suggest it's for > testing only. Isn't unstable what you want to use? The reason it's called "testing" is because it's a branch of Debian that's "in testing for stable". IIRC packages have to be 2 weeks in unstable without bugs before migrating to testing. So it's explicitly not a bleeding edge release, but a preparation release for the next sta…
At the very least "unstable" has a name with a negative connotation. It has the air of it being the user's fault if you use it and stuff breaks. I don't know what the practical breakage situation is, so I don't know if renaming and repositioning unstable would make more sense than doing it with testing. My point is that it would be good for non-expert end users who like Debian's community image and who want security…
Have you actually tried unstable? Granted, I haven't used it for a few years now (the only Debian boxes I have today are servers running stable), but "unstable" was actually quite reliable. Yes, it did break occasionally (mostly just minor issues with package dependencies) but those were usually easy fixes and "unstable" was actually quite usable as an everyday, desktop Linux.
If you haven't tried it, give it a shot. You may be surprised.
Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?
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Is there a valid reason to move to git from any other VCS a person happy with, regarding time and resources one have to spend on it instead of productive work?
I can't contrast git with all the different VCS tools that are available, but different tools have different capabilities with respect to working offline and reconciling branches. At any rate, it was an honest question. I'm not familiar with any salient reasons to not use git. If the only reason is that some developers still haven't learned git yet, I guess that's an answer. Not a very satisfying one to me, but it's…
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These don't work for WiFi drivers as I pointed out because they're not actually the firmware, they're packages to download the firmware. That obviously doesn't work if you don't have a network connection.
No, those do contain the firmware. https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/kernel/firmware-nonfree.git
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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there a valid reason to move to git from any other VCS a person happy with, regarding time and resources one have to spend on it instead of productive work?
I can't contrast git with all the different VCS tools that are available, but different tools have different capabilities with respect to working offline and reconciling branches. At any rate, it was an honest question. I'm not familiar with any salient reasons to not use git. If the only reason is that some developers still haven't learned git yet, I guess that's an answer. Not a very satisfying one to me, but it's…
There are those of us who have learned git and still prefer Mercurial. It's really annoying that git is supposed to be what we use across all programs, distributions, operating systems and hardware. Just about ASCII or TCP/IP are the only things that are about as universal, and git shouldn't be nowhere nearly as foundational as them. There should be room for more than one way to do source control.
Sadly, mercurial-buildpackage in Debian is a dead-end. :-(
Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?
#96HEADER 100% reproducible packages DESCRIPTION While having over 90% of packages reproducible already is awesome, 100% would be even better. The stretch release announcement describes best why: > Thanks to the Reproducible Builds project, over 90% of the source packages included in Debian 9 will build bit-for-bit identical binary packages. This is an important verification feature which protects users from malicious a…
They're working on it! I'm sure they'd appreciate your help in getting to 100%.
Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?
#97HEADER 100% reproducible packages DESCRIPTION While having over 90% of packages reproducible already is awesome, 100% would be even better. The stretch release announcement describes best why: > Thanks to the Reproducible Builds project, over 90% of the source packages included in Debian 9 will build bit-for-bit identical binary packages. This is an important verification feature which protects users from malicious a…
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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?
#98HEADLINE: a merger of flatpkg and snap
DESCRIPTION: a consensus on the next generation of package management. Please. We have had decades of fragmentation (not to mention duplicated innovation) around the RPM vs DEB ecosystem. Which is why it is still hard for beginners to want to use Linux - try explaining to anyone who comes from a Mac about rpm vs deb vs whatever else. Which is why they would pay for the mac rather than use Linux ("its too hard to install software").
Its not just my opinion - PackageKit (https://www.freedesktop.org/software/PackageKit/pk-intro.htm...) was invented for this reason. So you could have Gnome Software Manager that can work the same on every flavor of Linux. Its time to build this the right way.
You have an opportunity now - but again the camps are getting fragmented. We now have snap (ubuntu/deb) vs flatpkg (redhat) all over again. And pretty strongly divided camps are beginning to form around them. It seems that the new rhetoric is snap for servers and flatpkg for desktops... which absolutely doesnt make sense.
Debian is the place to make this stand - systemd was adopted from fedora despite Ubuntu making a strong push for something else. Debian made Ubuntu adopt systemd. I dont think anyone has anything but respect for that process. Debian 10 must take a stand on this.
Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?
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I would love some type of toggle, or "last chance to turn back" during install as far as being able to signal what type of init system I'd like to use.
The problem is that no-one has incorporated a modification to the Debian installer to have this. There are so-called "preseed" hooks that one can use to manually alter what packages the Debian installer installs. Putting in place pre-seed hooks that permitted something other than systemd to be installed ab initio was one of the first things that the Devuan people did, about two and a half years ago. But no-one to my…
Oh man, preseed is a pain in the ass too. I wish they'd support using kickstart files or that there were a kickstart to preseed conversion/migration tool.
Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?
#100HEADLINE: Repurpose testing as a rolling release positioned for not-just-testing usage DESCRIPTION: There are users who'd like to use a non-corporate community distro but who don't need or want software to be as old as software in Debian stable. The standard answer is "use testing" (e.g. http://ral-arturo.org/2017/05/11/debian-myths.html ), but 1) security support for testing is documented to be slower than for stabl…
The testing and unstable branches beeing kind of second class citizens is why I eventually jumped ship to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and Fedora (technically not rolling but things are more up to date) after a long time using the testing branch.