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Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?

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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?

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post #38

HEADLINE: Better support for non-free firmware during installation DESCRIPTION: Long-time Debian user here and free software supporter. One aspect where I don't have any practical choice for free software is my non-free iwlwifi firmware. It's a huge PITA to install Debian like that when you don't have the fallback of a wired network. You provide "non-free" firmware packages, but these don't have the actual firmware!…

I upvoted this even though I am of two minds regarding this issue.

Missing wifi support is my number 1 reason why I don't use Debian on the Desktop. On the other hand, I don't like non-free software and like the concept of Debian to not include it.

An alternative could be to put more effort into supporting all wifi hardware by writng free drivers for it. I will post that as my Feature Request.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?

#43
HEADLINE: Support for more wifi hardware.

DESCRIPTION: The #1 reason why I don't use Debian on the desktop is missing wifi support during installation. I wish Debian could write and include free wifi drivers for all recent laptops.

DISTRIBUTION: Debian 8 on the server. Mint Mate on the Desktop.

ROLE/AFFILIATION: Founder and CEO of a tech startup.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?

#44
post #7

HEADLINE First-class init that is not systemd DESCRIPTION I believe it's notorious that systemd is highly controversial, even spinning off a fork called Devuan. It might be more favorable to reunite the community by including one alternative init system that is, fundamentally, a first-class citizen in the Debian ecosystem. "First-class" implies that the user is given a choice on new installations in a specified promp…

What do you dislike about systemd? Do you disagree with the ideas behind it, or is your discontentment more about the specific implementation of those ideas? Can you give examples?

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calling python3 for a python 3 binary is ok I don't see how older python 2 programs can be supported without updating the hashbang line in a Py3 default system (which is most of the time trivial) - you could also have a dedicated virtualenv for them as well which would work - and which would (looks like to) be an equivalent amount of work as changing the hashbang lines Switching to default Py3 is a breaking change an…

> Switching to default Py3 is a breaking change Not only breaking, but also completely unnecessary

Python 2.7 being EOL at a future date means switching to Python 3 is needed

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?

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post #42
post #38

HEADLINE: Better support for non-free firmware during installation DESCRIPTION: Long-time Debian user here and free software supporter. One aspect where I don't have any practical choice for free software is my non-free iwlwifi firmware. It's a huge PITA to install Debian like that when you don't have the fallback of a wired network. You provide "non-free" firmware packages, but these don't have the actual firmware!…

I upvoted this even though I am of two minds regarding this issue. Missing wifi support is my number 1 reason why I don't use Debian on the Desktop. On the other hand, I don't like non-free software and like the concept of Debian to not include it. An alternative could be to put more effort into supporting all wifi hardware by writng free drivers for it. I will post that as my Feature Request.

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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?

#47
post #42
post #38

HEADLINE: Better support for non-free firmware during installation DESCRIPTION: Long-time Debian user here and free software supporter. One aspect where I don't have any practical choice for free software is my non-free iwlwifi firmware. It's a huge PITA to install Debian like that when you don't have the fallback of a wired network. You provide "non-free" firmware packages, but these don't have the actual firmware!…

I upvoted this even though I am of two minds regarding this issue. Missing wifi support is my number 1 reason why I don't use Debian on the Desktop. On the other hand, I don't like non-free software and like the concept of Debian to not include it. An alternative could be to put more effort into supporting all wifi hardware by writng free drivers for it. I will post that as my Feature Request.

The drivers are free and already in the kernel. I'm talking about firmware support.

You can still use Debian on the desktop, it has all the WiFi support e.g. Ubuntu has. It's just the installer that doesn't have parity since it's 100% free, working around it is a bit of a hassle as I described, but a one-time pain.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?

#49
post #18

HEADLINE: Out of the box support for being run in VirtualBox. DESCRIPTION: I tested the stretch release candidates in VirtualBox, and while I did eventually get them working, I had to follow the instructions in several bug reports from across both the Debian and VirtualBox probably project websites. I don't mind following instructions, so if there is a reason why this can't be achieved seamlessly with zero configurat…

I do also have had some problems running Debian Stretch in Virtual Box.

For example I had to install the "xserver-xorg-legacy" package to get the X server working as X is not running as root anymore.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Debian 10 (“buster”)?

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HEADLINE: Repurpose testing as a rolling release positioned for not-just-testing usage

DESCRIPTION:

There are users who'd like to use a non-corporate community distro but who don't need or want software to be as old as software in Debian stable. The standard answer is "use testing" (e.g. http://ral-arturo.org/2017/05/11/debian-myths.html), but 1) security support for testing is documented to be slower than for stable and unstable (https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch1...) and 2) the name is suggestive of it being for testing only.

Please 1) provide timely security support for testing and 2) rename testing to something with a positive connotation that doesn't suggest it's for testing only. I suggest "fresh" to use the LibreOffice channel naming.

DISTRIBUTION: testing

ROLE: Upstream browser developer. (Not speaking on behalf of affiliation.)

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