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Internet Explorer 9 destroys Chrome 6 in HTML5 speed test (video)

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Re: Internet Explorer 9 destroys Chrome 6 in HTML5 speed test (video)

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Post by robin_reala »

zweben wrote: post #29
patio11 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The entire point of the suggestion is to break compatibility with IE6 so that the rest of the world can stop having to code against it. Breaking compatibility with IE6 has freaking enormous switching costs for some users. (Let me hum a few bars: you use a $3 million CRM which only supports IE6, and the company which bought the company which made it has since folded. This is hypothetical, but not very hypothetical, if…

The entire point of my suggestion is that a newer browser doesn't need to break compatibility with older browsers to allow people to stop supporting them. Backwards compatibility makes it possible for Microsoft to do a forced upgrade without screwing anyone over. Once a significant majority people are using IE9, it doesn't matter if they're still relying on its backwards compatibility for existing websites, new websi…

The currently existing alternative is just to install Chrome or Firefox for the current web and leave IE6 in place for legacy internal applications. But then browsing the web isn’t seen as a useful part of people’s jobs in most companies.

Re: Internet Explorer 9 destroys Chrome 6 in HTML5 speed test (video)

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Post by sid0 »

TeHCrAzY wrote: post #9
macemoneta wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a good thing that all other browsers have stopped development. Or maybe a better test would be comparing browsers with hardware acceleration against each other? Does anyone compare two games, one with hardware rendering and one with software rendering? No, of course not. That would be crazy.

Chrome is currently the fastest at this; what else would you have them test against?

Chrome is currently the fastest at this

No it isn't. Firefox in software mode (release builds) is generally faster than Chrome when it comes to canvas. Firefox in hardware mode (pre-release, Direct2D) is around as fast as IE.

Re: Internet Explorer 9 destroys Chrome 6 in HTML5 speed test (video)

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

In the Mr Potato head example video demo Chrome has 25fps before you click anything i.e. just displaying a static canvas doesn't get up to the 60fps seen for IE9. It also returns to only 25fps after everything stops moving again after you shoot the gun.

I thought that was a bit strange, so I tried to reproduce it. In the live demo the fps meter only appears after you fire the gun, and (apparently) stops with the last value after the items stop moving.

What's going on there?

Re: Internet Explorer 9 destroys Chrome 6 in HTML5 speed test (video)

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Post by Buzzzz »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #28
Buzzzz wrote: post #13

Pretty cool, now we only need to bring hw accel to linux and firefox :). My main browser will allways be a open one since we really shouldnt trust corporations in keeping the we open. //Anders

All the other browser already have hw acceleration in various stages in their "preview" builds, in released builds to some extent too.

But not on linux/*bsd right? Guess you have to have a quite new mac for that too ( my 2008 Macbook wount cut it I guess :( )

Re: Internet Explorer 9 destroys Chrome 6 in HTML5 speed test (video)

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

Buzzzz wrote: post #34
ZeroGravitas wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the other browser already have hw acceleration in various stages in their "preview" builds, in released builds to some extent too.

But not on linux/*bsd right? Guess you have to have a quite new mac for that too ( my 2008 Macbook wount cut it I guess :( )

Depends which browser/feature you're talking about. The WebGL stuff I believe is hardware accelerated in Linux Firefox, but some of the video stuff is Windows only for now and some other stuff is Vista & Windows7 only currently.

For the Mac are you talking about H.264 acceleration? Apple have historically not exposed the hardware acceleration features of the graphics cards they shipped, often not even using it themselves and just using software decode. They've changed this recently by making use of some (but not all) of the Nvidia (but not ATI) decode capabilities but it's not the hardware that's missing for many older devices, it's access to the hardware that only Apple can provide. These capabilities are accessible if you're running Windows or Linux on that same hardware.

Re: Internet Explorer 9 destroys Chrome 6 in HTML5 speed test (video)

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Post by warfangle »

postfuturist wrote: post #5

Using hardware acceleration in a contrived example, IE 9 is faster at rendering fish. Yawn. Nothing Microsoft does now can make up how awful IE 6,7, and 8 are and the fact that most of my day-to-day pain is caused by supporting their crap-tastic browsers. Even IE 8 leaks memory like a sieve.

True, true.

Wonder what the result would be if the video maker had tried using the WebGL extension... if this FishIE thing supports it.

Re: Internet Explorer 9 destroys Chrome 6 in HTML5 speed test (video)

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Post by henrikhansen »

macemoneta wrote: post #14
TeHCrAzY wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome is currently the fastest at this; what else would you have them test against?

The current developer build of Chrome/Chromium has hardware acceleration (switch enabled). The 3.7 developer build of Firefox also has it (and it's supposed to be faster than IE9). Why didn't they compare those, since IE9 is also a developer build?

Chrome's acceleration is not of the entire page. It is only acceleration of things like 3D transforms and a few other things.

Re: Internet Explorer 9 destroys Chrome 6 in HTML5 speed test (video)

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Post by orlandu63 »

postfuturist wrote: post #5

Using hardware acceleration in a contrived example, IE 9 is faster at rendering fish. Yawn. Nothing Microsoft does now can make up how awful IE 6,7, and 8 are and the fact that most of my day-to-day pain is caused by supporting their crap-tastic browsers. Even IE 8 leaks memory like a sieve.

"Using hardware acceleration in a contrived example, IE 9 is faster at rendering fish."

It's not a contrived example, as someone already pointed out.

"Nothing Microsoft does now can make up how awful IE 6,7, and 8 are and the fact that most of my day-to-day pain is caused by supporting their crap-tastic browsers. Even IE 8 leaks memory like a sieve."

This is entirely irrelevant.

Why is this comment being upvoted?

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