Ableton Live Redesign • Hacker News Board

Re: Ableton Live Redesign

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Post by 20after4 » Sat, Jun 17, 2017, 7:12 AM UTC

problems wrote: post #83

citeguised wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Phillip Sackl landed a design-job at Mozilla by doing something similar. It wasn't as complex as a full redesign, though. The application: http://readyformozilla.com/ The design-work: http://readyformozilla.com/panorama/

Panorama was one of the most promising features Firefox had, but they killed it. There was a guy who maintained a plugin version and even did some cool improvements to it [1], but he abandoned it because of Mozilla killing their older, but more featureful APIs - even those that are e10s compatible. I still use this thing sometimes and I'm quite sad to see it go. [1]: http://fasezero.com/addons/

Such a sad story, shared by many who supported Mozilla for so long. RIP Firefox Addons.

Re: Ableton Live Redesign

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Post by 20after4 » Sat, Jun 17, 2017, 7:15 AM UTC

eXpl0it3r wrote: post #46

microcolonel wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I think that's the first thing that came to mind for me. That said, looks like a fairly clear graphical system, aside from the lack of lighting context for some of the controls. I'd be interested in implementing something like this and putting it in front of some artists. A lot of the time companies like Ableton face a challenge where they have to choose between changing their UI to make it more useful, and kee…

Would be awesome if it does go beyond just decoupling it internally (which I hope they more or less do already), but open the UI part up to the users. If you look how much time gets invested into modding some game's UI, how much neat things could be done, if the whole UI of a DAW is easily moddable.

XUL!

Re: Ableton Live Redesign

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Post by iamchrisle » Sat, Jun 17, 2017, 10:38 AM UTC

cmicali wrote: post #17

anonova wrote: post #16

I don't really have a problem with the UI; I want Ableton to fix the other annoyances first: * Saving the project resets the undo history. A someone who frequently saves, this is super frustrating. * No normal zoom controls. You have to use the "minimap" at the top. * Only a single project can be open at once, which makes copying from old projects tedious unless you shuffle files around into your current project. * T…

You got all of my wish list with 2 additions: * ability to favorite plugins (please!) * aliases on the arrange page

Workaround: Make your plugin with settings as you want, then group it so it's inside an instrument rack. Then drag the rack into the browser and into a folder of your choosing.

When you want to use it again, drag the saved rack into your project. The plugins settings will be restored.

Re: Ableton Live Redesign

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Post by dneman » Fri, Jun 23, 2017, 5:42 PM UTC

So in the end this story came to an unfortunate ending. The guy didn't even get a proper interview from Ableton. Quoting him from his website:

"EDIT: Unfortunately, at the end, I didn’t get the job nor an interview where I could have commented on or explained my design decisions. However, after I got the email saying that they don’t want to hire me, I did get a chance to talk with their head of design, Ed Macovaz. Ed and I discussed my unsolicited redesign and he gave me his and team’s feedback as well as some useful insights on how to improve as a designer."

To me, it's quite a strange turn of events. I would at least call a guy to have a proper interview.