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Re: Jobs That Artificial Intelligence Will Create

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Post by peter303 »

snowwrestler wrote: post #24

I expect AI-empowered job growth to happen heavily in the medical biology field. We've just barely begun to scratch the immense complexity of the human body. It dwarfs any "big data" system today that you can think of. Another candidate is environmental management, like environmental reviews, construction permitting, and pollution remediation. Again, there is almost no limit to the complexity you'll encounter when yo…

AIs dont create new knowledge yet. But may ferret out known things more efficiently.

Re: Jobs That Artificial Intelligence Will Create

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Post by [deleted] »

juhanima wrote: post #33
oconnore wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of those jobs you mentioned are not economic, they are public works -- and there is no funding for them, so at best those are volunteer efforts, not something to put food on the table. You're right, in theory we could have a system where we put truck drivers to work doing great stuff. Losing lots of jobs could be amazing if we had the services and programs that made our society compatible with that. But we don't,…

Making the society compatible with that actually sounds like an excellent idea. Why not?

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Re: Jobs That Artificial Intelligence Will Create

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Post by mLuby »

bbctol wrote: post #30
ooqr wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be realistic about point a). And for point b), it's always truck drivers brought up in these instances. Yes, think of the poor truck drivers. I'm sure they love doing a dull job. If a job is replaceable by machines, it's not worth doing. I get the worry that people will be without livelihood, but it's not as if this world has a shortage of work to be done. If we had no more work to do, sure, bring on the UBI. But we…

Clean litter out of forests... for free? Visit the sick... for free? People don't like being truck drivers because they like driving trucks, they like being truck drivers because they like eating, sleeping, and raising their families. The unemployment rate is currently above 0, despite their being no "shortage of work to be done," because plenty of work that could be done doesn't have anyone paying in exchange for th…

Don't assume you know why truck drivers do what they do…

Re: Jobs That Artificial Intelligence Will Create

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Post by ddebernardy »

peter303 wrote: post #41
snowwrestler wrote: post #24

I expect AI-empowered job growth to happen heavily in the medical biology field. We've just barely begun to scratch the immense complexity of the human body. It dwarfs any "big data" system today that you can think of. Another candidate is environmental management, like environmental reviews, construction permitting, and pollution remediation. Again, there is almost no limit to the complexity you'll encounter when yo…

AIs dont create new knowledge yet. But may ferret out known things more efficiently.

Create, not yet... although there are a few automated biology lab solutions in the wild... but it might help refute a number of dubious findings if it's able to spot methodology problems.

Re: Jobs That Artificial Intelligence Will Create

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Post by WalterSear »

juhanima wrote: post #33
oconnore wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of those jobs you mentioned are not economic, they are public works -- and there is no funding for them, so at best those are volunteer efforts, not something to put food on the table. You're right, in theory we could have a system where we put truck drivers to work doing great stuff. Losing lots of jobs could be amazing if we had the services and programs that made our society compatible with that. But we don't,…

Making the society compatible with that actually sounds like an excellent idea. Why not?

> the political climate appears to be reluctant to even start building them.

Re: Jobs That Artificial Intelligence Will Create

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Post by randcraw »

snowwrestler wrote: post #24

I expect AI-empowered job growth to happen heavily in the medical biology field. We've just barely begun to scratch the immense complexity of the human body. It dwarfs any "big data" system today that you can think of. Another candidate is environmental management, like environmental reviews, construction permitting, and pollution remediation. Again, there is almost no limit to the complexity you'll encounter when yo…

And I expect AI-empowered medical jobs to be heavily regulated, such that the extraction of personalized results will have to comply closely with formal processes and strictures, thereby slowing and complicating their adoption.

It's possible that using AI to tune therapy techniques will thrive, like pacemakers and blood glucose monitoring. But diagnosis will take considerably longer to catch on, since the responsible party for making medical decisions can't be mere software.

I work at a pharma, and from what I've seen, the use of clinical data is often complicated and unrewarding unless your question is very precise and worth the extra cost/effort that all that regulation requires. Asking or acting on more general questions like those amenable to AI would be infeasable due to all the constraints against gathering a sufficiently critical mass of general personal data.

Re: Jobs That Artificial Intelligence Will Create

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Post by captain_crabs »

peter303 wrote: post #41
snowwrestler wrote: post #24

I expect AI-empowered job growth to happen heavily in the medical biology field. We've just barely begun to scratch the immense complexity of the human body. It dwarfs any "big data" system today that you can think of. Another candidate is environmental management, like environmental reviews, construction permitting, and pollution remediation. Again, there is almost no limit to the complexity you'll encounter when yo…

AIs dont create new knowledge yet. But may ferret out known things more efficiently.

Key difference between your comment, and the parent, is the distinction between now and later (time) along with "knowledge" vs "resources." If ai-driven technology produces new abstractions, or put differently, massively reduces the cost and access to resources that are currently scarce and valuable, then you have a whole layer of newly introduced resource(s) to Build businesses off of. This might not be new knowledge the way I took it in your comment. I also think it's reasonable to assume that as quality engineering time keeps getting poured into these areas, these new abstractions will happen. I also believe this is a great way to look at the world, which is why I felt compelled to clarify.

Re: Jobs That Artificial Intelligence Will Create

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Post by cr0sh »

Animats wrote: post #25
ooqr wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be realistic about point a). And for point b), it's always truck drivers brought up in these instances. Yes, think of the poor truck drivers. I'm sure they love doing a dull job. If a job is replaceable by machines, it's not worth doing. I get the worry that people will be without livelihood, but it's not as if this world has a shortage of work to be done. If we had no more work to do, sure, bring on the UBI. But we…

If a job is replaceable by machines, it's not worth doing. It's not about truck drivers. If your job consists entirely of stuff that goes in and out over a wire, expect to be replaced by computers.

> If your job consists entirely of stuff that goes in and out over a wire, expect to be replaced by computers.

If you are a software engineer, and don't understand this - then you don't understand software engineering.

The whole point of software engineering is to automate everything - including software engineering.

What happens afterward...? Who knows...

Re: Jobs That Artificial Intelligence Will Create

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Post by ooqr »

gnaritas wrote: post #19
ooqr wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be realistic about point a). And for point b), it's always truck drivers brought up in these instances. Yes, think of the poor truck drivers. I'm sure they love doing a dull job. If a job is replaceable by machines, it's not worth doing. I get the worry that people will be without livelihood, but it's not as if this world has a shortage of work to be done. If we had no more work to do, sure, bring on the UBI. But we…

You're rather missing the point; AI will create a shortage of work to do. The alternatives you mention aren't things that pay a living wage so yes, people will be without livelihoods and something akin to UBI will be necessary.

I'm just saying they should still have something to do. There's plenty that needs to be done.

Re: Jobs That Artificial Intelligence Will Create

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Post by ooqr »

bbctol wrote: post #30
ooqr wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be realistic about point a). And for point b), it's always truck drivers brought up in these instances. Yes, think of the poor truck drivers. I'm sure they love doing a dull job. If a job is replaceable by machines, it's not worth doing. I get the worry that people will be without livelihood, but it's not as if this world has a shortage of work to be done. If we had no more work to do, sure, bring on the UBI. But we…

Clean litter out of forests... for free? Visit the sick... for free? People don't like being truck drivers because they like driving trucks, they like being truck drivers because they like eating, sleeping, and raising their families. The unemployment rate is currently above 0, despite their being no "shortage of work to be done," because plenty of work that could be done doesn't have anyone paying in exchange for th…

You're missing the point. There's room for social programs to get these things done, but UBI for nothing isn't a good idea.
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