Coconut oil made my yellow teeth white. Swoosh it around your mouth 5 minutes everyday. I'm fat but still alive.
Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy
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Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy
#62It's precisely the fact that Coconut oil is 100% plant-based, saturated fat that it IS healthy. The notion that saturated fat causes heart disease has been thoroughly debunked as sham science. It's the inflammation in the arteries stimulated by excess sugar consumption (refined carbs, table sugar, soda, etc) that causes the problem. The body sends cholesterol to the scene to patch the damage. Reference: http://www.ny…
>Finally, I can show you cultures, such as the Inuit, who's diet is almost exclusively saturated fat and protein and which are healthy (as long as they stick to their native diet). I challenge anyone to show me a culture who's diet is primarily sugar-based which has comparable health.
Eating fresh raw meat you actually do consume copious sugars in the form of the raw glycogen stores of the now dead animal.
>For instance, when blubber is analyzed by direct carbohydrate measurements, it has been shown to contain as much as 8—30% carbohydrates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_cuisine#Nutrition
But, I bet there is a world of difference to how our bodies process dietary glycogen and plant-sourced carbohydrates.
Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy
#63I feel vindicated. All my hipster friends cook with this crap... My main issue is it makes everything taste like coconut.
In the event that the article is wrong or just fear mongering, you can buy unscented coconut oil. It essentially tastes like margarine.
Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy
#64It's precisely the fact that Coconut oil is 100% plant-based, saturated fat that it IS healthy. The notion that saturated fat causes heart disease has been thoroughly debunked as sham science. It's the inflammation in the arteries stimulated by excess sugar consumption (refined carbs, table sugar, soda, etc) that causes the problem. The body sends cholesterol to the scene to patch the damage. Reference: http://www.ny…
So why does the AHA still say that saturated fat raises LDL, and cites multiple trials? This goes beyond the media and Ancel Keys. Are these studies not able to control for confounding factors like replacing the sat. fat with sugars and refined carbs?
For what it's worth I don't think saturated fat is necessarily bad. I don't have links but I've read a couple of good studies that showed saturated fat raised LDL in a cohort of sedentary participants, but had no impact on LDL in a cohort of regular exercisers. This suggests it may be more important to focus on exercise if you're worried about HDL/LDL.
Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy
#65It's precisely the fact that Coconut oil is 100% plant-based, saturated fat that it IS healthy. The notion that saturated fat causes heart disease has been thoroughly debunked as sham science. It's the inflammation in the arteries stimulated by excess sugar consumption (refined carbs, table sugar, soda, etc) that causes the problem. The body sends cholesterol to the scene to patch the damage. Reference: http://www.ny…
So why does the AHA still say that saturated fat raises LDL, and cites multiple trials? This goes beyond the media and Ancel Keys. Are these studies not able to control for confounding factors like replacing the sat. fat with sugars and refined carbs? For what it's worth I don't think saturated fat is necessarily bad. I don't have links but I've read a couple of good studies that showed saturated fat raised LDL in a…
Keep in mind there's also increasing evidence that HDL/LDL are symptoms, not causes of heart disease. Maybe the strongest is the failure of drugs that lower LDL and increase HDL - they don't make people better.
E.g. Eli Lilly's Evacetrapib: tested on 20k patients over 24 months, LDL down 30%, HDL up 125% - but zero difference in cardiovascular health outcomes. Needless to say it failed the trial and has been scrapped.
http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2017/05/18/now...
Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy
#66Why does the AHA even still exist? Anyone who is at all informed about nutrition has long ago stopped listening to their nonsense.
The answer is of course that the AHA exists chiefly to promote the financial interests of the entities that fund them - the processed food industry (i.e. wheat, corn, and soy), and to give their "heart healthy" product marketing campaigns the illusion of scientific/medical legitimacy.
Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy
#67I stopped thinking the AHA were credible after they stuck dogmatically to their 'salt is evil' message despite the complete lack of any evidence to this effect, (and some evidence that low salt consumption is problematic).
Salt for some!
(turns out response to salt varies wildly between people)
Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy
#68As someone who drinks Bulletproof coffee (ala Brain Octane oil), how does this fit in? Is the concentrated coconut oil in brain octane oil also just as bad? Or is the fact that its very concentrated mean it contains less of the negative qualities? I feel like what this article is saying is that, just guzzling oil isn't good for you, which is obvious, but in small doses, is it ok?
From the article: 100% MCTs may increase your metabolic rate, but traditional coconut oil only contains about 15% MCTs and isn't good for your health in any quantity.
ah, thanks
Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy
#69Bullshit, the problem is not fat, it's the carbs. Watch this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vr-c8GeT34 David Diamond, Ph.D., of the University of South Florida College of Arts and Sciences shares his personal story about his battle with obesity. Diamond shows how he lost weight and reduced his triglycerides by eating red meat, eggs and butter.
This one is not heart problem related, but still interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da1vvigy5tQ Can a person be "cured" of Type 2 Diabetes? Dr. Sarah Hallberg provides compelling evidence that it can, and the solution is simpler than you might think.
So after learning a lot about it I just started ketogenic diet a couple of weeks ago (very low carb, high fat, moderate protein). Everything I read about it says MCT is good, so coconut oil is good. Pure MCT is much better but it's £18 half litre so I'm not going to cook with that.
KCKO :)
Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy
#70Bullshit, the problem is not fat, it's the carbs. Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vr-c8GeT34 David Diamond, Ph.D., of the University of South Florida College of Arts and Sciences shares his personal story about his battle with obesity. Diamond shows how he lost weight and reduced his triglycerides by eating red meat, eggs and butter. This one is not heart problem related, but still interesting: htt…
And what was his caloric intake? Virtually every eat only X diet is based on the fact that the portions combined with the limitation on ingredients limit the caloric intake by as much as half. These diets work pretty well on overweight people since their BMR tends to be quite high due to their body mass.
I would really like to see the person that eats 3-4 500g rib eyes with a sunny side up on the side topped with half a stick of butter a day for a year that some how still gets a clean bill of health.
On the other hand eating lean red meat (That said unless you get a ton of fiber supplements daily I wouldn't bet on having comfortable bowel movements on that diet.