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Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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Science or as N.N.Taleb says Scientism? There is an entire state in India where Coconut Oil is a main ingredient (Kerala) for centuries.

>There is an entire state in India where Coconut Oil is a main ingredient (Kerala) for centuries. Don't they also defecate openly there? Doesn't seem like the best area to mimic public health wise.

They don't. That is a different state.

Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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I'm not sure that I follow. Does high LDL cholesterol not increase your risk of cardiovascular disease?

It might be an indicator of other problems, but it's not clear that it's causative. Start reading _Good Calories, Bad Calories_ and go from there.

It's been a while since I've read that book, but I seem to remember Taubes argued that LDL cholesterol could plausibly have a negative effect on cardiovascular health and that VLDL cholesterol had a extremely negative effect on cardiovascular health. Am I misremembering?

Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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Science or as N.N.Taleb says Scientism? There is an entire state in India where Coconut Oil is a main ingredient (Kerala) for centuries.

There are also tribes that actively drink alcohol or even consume natural opiates all the time. What's your point?

Population of Kerala : 34.8 million and many more live in Persian Gulf and other parts of India. This is a huge population, about size of Venezuela. When you talk about a State in India it pretty much is a large sample size.

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Indians also have surprisingly high rates of cardiovascular disease for a people with such low levels of obesity.

Kerala is sub-set of India and they have one the better socio-economic indices in India, from that my guess is better Health indices relatively speaking. The biggest problem in the state for Health is alcoholism (to my knowledge). When it comes to food, I follow Micheal Pollen's rule, food that your grandma recognize a.k.a traditional food. Coconut Oil has been used in traditional foods in many parts of the world tha…

People in India have eaten Betel nuts/leaves for generations, yet that causes oral cancer. Doesn't seem like sufficient enough evidence to me that traditional foods = healthy.

Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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Indians also have surprisingly high rates of cardiovascular disease for a people with such low levels of obesity.

Kerala is sub-set of India and they have one the better socio-economic indices in India, from that my guess is better Health indices relatively speaking. The biggest problem in the state for Health is alcoholism (to my knowledge). When it comes to food, I follow Micheal Pollen's rule, food that your grandma recognize a.k.a traditional food. Coconut Oil has been used in traditional foods in many parts of the world tha…

With all do respect for your personal health choices, that's not science nor "evidence". Just because some culture does something, doesn't mean it's the optimal way of things, especially nutrition. It's just something you have chosen to base your life on.

Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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It might be an indicator of other problems, but it's not clear that it's causative. Start reading _Good Calories, Bad Calories_ and go from there.

It's been a while since I've read that book, but I seem to remember Taubes argued that LDL cholesterol could plausibly have a negative effect on cardiovascular health and that VLDL cholesterol had a extremely negative effect on cardiovascular health. Am I misremembering?

Those are scientifically accepted ideas, but I haven't read Taubes' book. If he didn't say it, maybe you heard it elsewhere.

Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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As someone who drinks Bulletproof coffee (ala Brain Octane oil), how does this fit in? Is the concentrated coconut oil in brain octane oil also just as bad? Or is the fact that its very concentrated mean it contains less of the negative qualities? I feel like what this article is saying is that, just guzzling oil isn't good for you, which is obvious, but in small doses, is it ok?

Glad you mentioned Bulletproof. Asprey said once in one of his many videos that Coconut Oil doesn't work when combined with coffee because it contains bad saturated fats which you want to avoid. It does however contain MCT, but not in the ratio you want, hence his Octane oil products which only provide the good fats that you need.

Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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There are also tribes that actively drink alcohol or even consume natural opiates all the time. What's your point?

Population of Kerala : 34.8 million and many more live in Persian Gulf and other parts of India. This is a huge population, about size of Venezuela. When you talk about a State in India it pretty much is a large sample size.

When you're talking about India, 34 million people is a rounding error.

It's also a country with unusually high population diversity which means that genetically speaking you could be talking about a group of people that are naturally immune to the effects of whatever they're consuming. You'd have to take a broader sample to find out.

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