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Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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Yes, apparently the AHA is still committed to science.

Science or as N.N.Taleb says Scientism? There is an entire state in India where Coconut Oil is a main ingredient (Kerala) for centuries.

>There is an entire state in India where Coconut Oil is a main ingredient (Kerala) for centuries.

Don't they also defecate openly there? Doesn't seem like the best area to mimic public health wise.

Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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I'm not sure that I follow. Does high LDL cholesterol not increase your risk of cardiovascular disease?

There's been increasing evidence that high cholesterol is a symptom of cardiovascular disease, not the cause. Editing because lots of people want sources. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4513492/ http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/panel-suggests-stop-warni... http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/6/6/e010401 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atherosclerosis#Accelerated_gr... This is a group I was unaware of until p…

Can you source that? I'm having trouble finding much in the way of that claim.

Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, apparently the AHA is still committed to science.

Science or as N.N.Taleb says Scientism? There is an entire state in India where Coconut Oil is a main ingredient (Kerala) for centuries.

Indians also have surprisingly high rates of cardiovascular disease for a people with such low levels of obesity.

Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure that I follow. Does high LDL cholesterol not increase your risk of cardiovascular disease?

There's been increasing evidence that high cholesterol is a symptom of cardiovascular disease, not the cause. Editing because lots of people want sources. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4513492/ http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/panel-suggests-stop-warni... http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/6/6/e010401 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atherosclerosis#Accelerated_gr... This is a group I was unaware of until p…

There's not much of a correlation. I think only half of the cases of cardiovascular disease have elevated LDL cholesterol. It's always more complicated than simply having elevated cholesterol; it's overall diet, exercise, and plain old genetics that have the largest effect.

Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure that I follow. Does high LDL cholesterol not increase your risk of cardiovascular disease?

There's been increasing evidence that high cholesterol is a symptom of cardiovascular disease, not the cause. Editing because lots of people want sources. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4513492/ http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/panel-suggests-stop-warni... http://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/6/6/e010401 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atherosclerosis#Accelerated_gr... This is a group I was unaware of until p…

Can you link of that evidence? In form of scientific studies (quality ones)? This is not a general "you can't prove your point, you don't have science". I'm actually interested. I have been looking for hard science in this area and have seen none that would back up your claims.

Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, apparently the AHA is still committed to science.

Science or as N.N.Taleb says Scientism? There is an entire state in India where Coconut Oil is a main ingredient (Kerala) for centuries.

There are also tribes that actively drink alcohol or even consume natural opiates all the time. What's your point?

Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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As someone who drinks Bulletproof coffee (ala Brain Octane oil), how does this fit in? Is the concentrated coconut oil in brain octane oil also just as bad? Or is the fact that its very concentrated mean it contains less of the negative qualities? I feel like what this article is saying is that, just guzzling oil isn't good for you, which is obvious, but in small doses, is it ok?

when you say "concentrated oil", what do you mean?

Re: Coconut oil isn't healthy and it's never been healthy

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Science or as N.N.Taleb says Scientism? There is an entire state in India where Coconut Oil is a main ingredient (Kerala) for centuries.

Indians also have surprisingly high rates of cardiovascular disease for a people with such low levels of obesity.

Kerala is sub-set of India and they have one the better socio-economic indices in India, from that my guess is better Health indices relatively speaking. The biggest problem in the state for Health is alcoholism (to my knowledge).

When it comes to food, I follow Micheal Pollen's rule, food that your grandma recognize a.k.a traditional food. Coconut Oil has been used in traditional foods in many parts of the world that is sufficient evidence for me.

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