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Switching to the Mutt Email Client

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Re: Switching to the Mutt Email Client

#21
This is all very nice, but the fact that the article doesn't even _mention_ images or attachments shows how divorced it is from the reality of most people's email experience.

I happily used emacs as my mail-reader from 1989 to about 2009 (first RMAIL mode, then VM). The increasing importance of non-text formats made it cumbersome, and I somewhat reluctantly switched to GMail. It's hard to imagine switching back now.

Re: Switching to the Mutt Email Client

#22

This is all very nice, but the fact that the article doesn't even _mention_ images or attachments shows how divorced it is from the reality of most people's email experience. I happily used emacs as my mail-reader from 1989 to about 2009 (first RMAIL mode, then VM). The increasing importance of non-text formats made it cumbersome, and I somewhat reluctantly switched to GMail. It's hard to imagine switching back now.

Richard Stallman (RMS) uses emacs for email as well.

I can't imagine it. Too much valuable information comes in the form of rich emails for me to even try.

Re: Switching to the Mutt Email Client

#23

This is all very nice, but the fact that the article doesn't even _mention_ images or attachments shows how divorced it is from the reality of most people's email experience. I happily used emacs as my mail-reader from 1989 to about 2009 (first RMAIL mode, then VM). The increasing importance of non-text formats made it cumbersome, and I somewhat reluctantly switched to GMail. It's hard to imagine switching back now.

the only images i find are either from spammy adverts or tracking pixels. Normal people don't put images in emails.

As for attachments, you can open them in their native programs just fine.

Re: Switching to the Mutt Email Client

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I feel that the folks that do this aren't working for big companies. In most big companies you can't really afford to do any email client shenanigans. You probably need to see HTML emails, handle calendar invites, etc.

TBH, I'm starting to think people that work in big companies need this the most. Outlook's filtering configuration is fairly limited compared to what you can do with a well setup procmail system.

True, but good luck working without an operational calendar system.

Re: Switching to the Mutt Email Client

#26
Ugh, no thanks.

I already use enough arcane tools on a daily basis due to my work. For mundane stuff like reading and sending mail, I'd rather take a break and use tools that even my tech illiterate father could effectively use.

It's really detoxicating to become a normie from time to time.

Disclaimer: Used to read mail with emacs back in the day. Tried mutt for a while.

Re: Switching to the Mutt Email Client

#27

Console based mail-clients are very powerful and fast to use. I was a long-time mutt user before I started writing my own mail client, with complete scripting provided by Lua. Having a real scripting language allows a lot of useful features, at times using mutt felt a little bit too constrained, although it has a lot of features and is very very flexible in its own right: https://github.com/lumail/lumail

The article seems to think that everyone should switch away from HTML. But how well does console clients deal with HTML emails. It's not like you can tell everyone to stop sending you HTML.

The general approach is to display the text/plain version of any incoming mails, but if you absolutely need to view the HTML then you'll pipe out to lynx, w3m, or links to view it.

Re: Switching to the Mutt Email Client

#28

Console based mail-clients are very powerful and fast to use. I was a long-time mutt user before I started writing my own mail client, with complete scripting provided by Lua. Having a real scripting language allows a lot of useful features, at times using mutt felt a little bit too constrained, although it has a lot of features and is very very flexible in its own right: https://github.com/lumail/lumail

The article seems to think that everyone should switch away from HTML. But how well does console clients deal with HTML emails. It's not like you can tell everyone to stop sending you HTML.

The common solution is to pipe these HTML messages through a command line browser, see https://debian-administration.org/article/75/Reading_HTML_em... for instance. You still have to open the pictures manually if you want to see them.

Re: Switching to the Mutt Email Client

#29

Console based mail-clients are very powerful and fast to use. I was a long-time mutt user before I started writing my own mail client, with complete scripting provided by Lua. Having a real scripting language allows a lot of useful features, at times using mutt felt a little bit too constrained, although it has a lot of features and is very very flexible in its own right: https://github.com/lumail/lumail

I found neomutt and find it to be nice. One thing that's been annoying me in mutt is that there is no unified inbox. Neomutt integrates notmuch as a first class citizen along with some other niceties(amongst others basic lua scripting). https://www.neomutt.org/changes/user https://www.neomutt.org/2017/04/29/lua https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14567303

I'd not heard of that, thanks for sharing.

Re: Switching to the Mutt Email Client

#30

Console based mail-clients are very powerful and fast to use. I was a long-time mutt user before I started writing my own mail client, with complete scripting provided by Lua. Having a real scripting language allows a lot of useful features, at times using mutt felt a little bit too constrained, although it has a lot of features and is very very flexible in its own right: https://github.com/lumail/lumail

I found neomutt and find it to be nice. One thing that's been annoying me in mutt is that there is no unified inbox. Neomutt integrates notmuch as a first class citizen along with some other niceties(amongst others basic lua scripting). https://www.neomutt.org/changes/user https://www.neomutt.org/2017/04/29/lua https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14567303

Mutt in Debian comes with the NeoMutt patchset by default. This is really convenient as I make heavy use of the NNTP feature that NeoMutt adds.
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