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Polynesian people used a kind of binary number system 600 years ago (2013)

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Re: Polynesian people used a kind of binary number system 600 years ago (2013)

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Computers use base two because their most natural unit can occupy one of a couple states: 0 or 1. One, two, base two.

Human hands, on the other foot, have ten fingers. Since our favorite mapping between things and integers is finger counting, we naturally end up with more than two states. Zero, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, and the fully-extended state, ten. That's eleven states, which is why the global human standard is base-eleven.

Wait, what?

Re: Polynesian people used a kind of binary number system 600 years ago (2013)

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The problem I have with these sorts of articles is that they have a clear agenda behind them. Okay, so they used binary numbers 600 years ago. But why is that posted here? It's not because it's interesting. It's like a 'hey look they were ahead of us on one thing' sort of thing. Which isn't true, obviously.

Re: Polynesian people used a kind of binary number system 600 years ago (2013)

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Computers use base two because their most natural unit can occupy one of a couple states: 0 or 1. One, two, base two. Human hands, on the other foot, have ten fingers. Since our favorite mapping between things and integers is finger counting, we naturally end up with more than two states. Zero, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, and the fully-extended state, ten. That's eleven states, which is why…

There's a lot more possible states than eleven. 32 if you count just whether a finger is extended. More if you allow crossing fingers, interaction between hands, etc. And this isn't theoretical either:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_number_gestures

Re: Polynesian people used a kind of binary number system 600 years ago (2013)

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post #5

Computers use base two because their most natural unit can occupy one of a couple states: 0 or 1. One, two, base two. Human hands, on the other foot, have ten fingers. Since our favorite mapping between things and integers is finger counting, we naturally end up with more than two states. Zero, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, and the fully-extended state, ten. That's eleven states, which is why…

There's a lot more possible states than eleven. 32 if you count just whether a finger is extended. More if you allow crossing fingers, interaction between hands, etc. And this isn't theoretical either: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_number_gestures

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Computers use base two because their most natural unit can occupy one of a couple states: 0 or 1. One, two, base two. Human hands, on the other foot, have ten fingers. Since our favorite mapping between things and integers is finger counting, we naturally end up with more than two states. Zero, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, and the fully-extended state, ten. That's eleven states, which is why…

Imagine you had two fingers and not ten. Try counting in binary. That should clear up the anomaly.

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Computers use base two because their most natural unit can occupy one of a couple states: 0 or 1. One, two, base two. Human hands, on the other foot, have ten fingers. Since our favorite mapping between things and integers is finger counting, we naturally end up with more than two states. Zero, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, and the fully-extended state, ten. That's eleven states, which is why…

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Re: Polynesian people used a kind of binary number system 600 years ago (2013)

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Computers use base two because their most natural unit can occupy one of a couple states: 0 or 1. One, two, base two. Human hands, on the other foot, have ten fingers. Since our favorite mapping between things and integers is finger counting, we naturally end up with more than two states. Zero, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, and the fully-extended state, ten. That's eleven states, which is why…

Imagine you had two fingers and not ten. Try counting in binary. That should clear up the anomaly.

You can count from zero to two on two fingers, so two-fingered aliens may invent numerals for zero, one and two. If they develop that into a place value system, it will be (fingers+1)-ary, or in their case trinary.
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