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Why? Do you have any proof WhatsApp is insecure?
As long as it's closed source, we have to assume that it's unsecure.
Man, I've got some horrible news about your CPU.
Telegram founder: US intelligence tried to bribe us to weaken encryption
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I read the WP article you cited, titled, "The secret American origins of Telegram, the encrypted messaging app favored by the Islamic State". If Telegram isn't that secure, then why are extremists like IS using it over Signal or WhatsApp? I know Telegram has better features for big groups and much better multi-platform support, so is that the reason? I'm legitimately asking without any snark.
You highly overestimate the people who are in position of power. I am talking about politicians, head of terrorist groups, etc. While saying that top politicians are complete idiots is probably wrong - then again maybe not, I am not sure anymore - the fact that H. Clinton, run the most expensive campaign in history, with backing from all major tech corps AND her staff didn't bother to use encryption at any scale, let…
Over 99% of people have no clue how computers work in the most basic sense of the word understanding and most are proud of their ignorance.
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> Telegram stores the messages you send/receive unencrypted on their servers. Anyone who has used Telegram for more than 5 minutes knows there are secret chats. The effort being made to rig the information against Telegram also tells a lot about its relevance.
I think part of the issue in examples like this one is that journalists read (legitimate) criticism about e.g. Telegram and simply don't report all the nuance (whether due to an actual agenda or honest misunderstanding). Secret chats are not enabled by default, and most users don't enable them; so yes, messages are generally stored without encryption on the Telegram servers. That's a more neutral way of presenting th…
My understanding was that non-encrypted messages were split across multiple countries/jurisdictions,, making it impractical (not impossible) to snoop.
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#184they "trust me", dumb fucks
We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14560721 and marked it off-topic.
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The tweet he was replying to said: "I've heard various reports from people I trust that Signal is compromised. Any comments/thoughts/reliable rumors?" With his reply, Durov is implicitly claiming that Signal must be compromised because it received some funding that can be traced back to the US government. This is the same kind of FUD that has often been used to smear Tor in the past (and indeed, the piece he cites de…
That fits the profile of a conspiracy theory.
Assume without thinking that conspiracy theory equals false -> you watch too much TV.
Re: Telegram founder: US intelligence tried to bribe us to weaken encryption
#186Good PR.
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I think he's spreading a lie.. based on what I've seen, at least. It's a not yet proven secure protocol, is the worst you can say against it I believe. I'm not a security guy mind you, I'm just parroting what I keep seeing. Rightfully so, lack of deep audit is a very valid reason to worry. Yet, worry and untrusted is vastly different than actively exploitable / broken.
Encryption should probably be considered broken until demonstrated otherwise.
By that logic all encryption is broken.
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#188I am not sure about the claim here but the FBI has always been all over cryptography companies and products and this was well before Snowden, Phil Zimmermann (PGP) knows about this. In 2003-2006, we built a service that was a financial system to exchange financial data through various means including AS/2 EDI over HTTP with big companies and the government suppliers such as AAFES (Army and Air Force Exchange). Initia…
Interesting. That strongly implies that RSA has a flaw, which is news to me.
PGP uses RSA, so anyone in possession of an RSA exploit could exploit it just the same, which would make this a doubly-ridiculous way for them to show their hand. I think it's more likely that the issue was the opposite: the FBI didn't think PGP was secure enough, certified correctly for this work, or that they believed there might be legal issues around PGP.
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Funded by the government != The government has their hands all over it
Exactly, the government is extremely large and not all the NSA. Sometimes the left hand doesn't know what all the thousands of right hands are doing and can't possibly care.
To some extent that's even true within the NSA.
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