Developers who use spaces make more money than those who use tabs

Post by rdiddly » Thu, Jun 15, 2017, 7:24 PM UTC

lmm wrote: post #446

jdc0589 wrote: post #395

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an indicator is just that, an indicator. It doesn't mean anything on its own, but in the presence of additional information (interview question responses and discussions in this case) it can help paint a better picture. If someone answered this question with "what? I don't know/care", and then knocked more important questions out of the park, then it was obviously a bad indicator and isn't relevant.

I don't follow. Either their answer means something or it doesn't.

Post by edmccard » Thu, Jun 15, 2017, 7:33 PM UTC

jdc0589 wrote: post #316

dmix wrote: post #310

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Does spending time considering the implications of spaces vs tabs really indicate competence? To me being over-obsessed with minor details might be either negative or at most neutral value. There are thousands of interesting programming subjects to initiate a conversation to evaluate competency. At most it's a matter of what tools you use as well as accepted standards in the individual programming language's communit…

> Does spending time considering the implications of spaces vs tabs really indicate competence? No, it signifies that you have spent enough time programming in a wide variety of platforms and with enough other peers to run in to the issue and understand that it exists.

Post by u801e » Thu, Jun 15, 2017, 7:40 PM UTC

tom_mellior wrote: post #333

jinglebells wrote: post #201

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> Finally, when another developer looks at the code, their IDE will render the tabs as whatever its set up for, 2 spaces, 4 spaces, etc. In other words, it adds flexibility. This is exactly why I use tabs and the reason which appears to never get cited in the holy wars. People who use spaces want to line up their '=' signs, that's fine, but I don't believe it's my position to enforce the amount of whitespace another…

> This is exactly why I use tabs and the reason which appears to never get cited in the holy wars. I see this cited every time. Unfortunately, it's bogus in practice. Consider: print('some long thing', further, arguments) If this is an indented block, you'd have to indent the second line to the correct depth with tabs, then add exactly six spaces for alignment . You have to mix spaces and tabs, which is never good ne…

    print(
        'some long thing', further,
        arguments)

Post by yunocat » Thu, Jun 15, 2017, 7:43 PM UTC

icc97 wrote: post #505

jdc0589 wrote: post #375

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rant: a default unconfigured vim instance is a perfect example of my main issue with all this whitespace crap. Personally, I like tabs, but ultimately, like you mentioned, it doesn't matter with a well set up editor. HOWEVER, a default unconfigured instance of vim is not capable of editing, for example, a YAML file in a valid manner without the user knowing that they have to manually set the tab character to spaces o…

Does anyone actually use an unconfigured instance of vim for actual development? I can see for people sshing in, editing a file and getting back out without bothering, but you'd have to be a quite a purist to do all your development in an unconfigured Vim. You can yank and modify existing lines which will keep your YAML spaces. For years I never used Vim to develop full time so never invested the time to setup my vim…

Post by patrickking » Thu, Jun 15, 2017, 7:48 PM UTC

dghf wrote: post #358

redm wrote: post #123

The reason I use tabs is pretty simple. It's faster to move around only using the keyboard. It's also faster if I'm changing code that requires reformatting. Finally, when another developer looks at the code, their IDE will render the tabs as whatever its set up for, 2 spaces, 4 spaces, etc. In other words, it adds flexibility. Brace yourself: I use two spaces after the end of sentences too. [1] I am quite the rebel.…

> The reason I use tabs is pretty simple. It's faster to move around only using the keyboard. Well, yes, if you use the arrow keys (unmodded) and nothing else. But who does that? Even Notepad lets you jump from word to word with CTRL-left/CTRL-right. Sublime Text must have something similar, surely?