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Re: MusicBrainz: an open music encyclopedia

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Post by Freso » Mon, Jun 05, 2017, 10:21 AM UTC

exogen wrote: post #87

narrowrail wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>In theory MusicBrainz already has metrics What does "in theory" mean here? Do those tables exist in whole or some part? Is this a matter of indexing an existing data set or hoping some data was acquired by accidental consequence?

I'm assuming it already exists due to the existence of pages like https://musicbrainz.org/tops/mb_top_stuff.html and https://stats.metabrainz.org , I'm just not positive of it. :) Even if it's not collected though, it's data that they at least already have the ability to collect by simply flipping a switch, as opposed to spinning up a whole new ListenBrainz service and hoping it gains traction.

Oh, and the mp_top_stuff.html page was created less than a week ago.

You're absolutely right that we could, in theory, have that data, but we do not currently. Not in any usable form (for this purpose) anyway.

Re: MusicBrainz: an open music encyclopedia

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Post by Freso » Mon, Jun 05, 2017, 10:26 AM UTC

exogen wrote: post #83

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Canonical" can't apply to music releases in an objective and definitive way. Context certainly matters (first, modified, compilation, remaster, remix, audiophile pressing, and so on) but you can't even nail "canonical" to first release, especially for singles, because there may be early promo mixes, radio mixes, vinyl mixes, iTunes mixes, and so on - all mastered differently. Most people's idea of "canonical" is rea…

You've described the issue pretty well, and I understand (and agree with!) all of that – like I said, I've devoted a LOT of time to solving this. > Most people's idea of "canonical" is really "The version I want to hear without having to specify other details". But that's subjective and likely to be significantly different for some non-trivial percentage of users, especially in different territories. Yup! You are des…

Note that our current search server software is in "minimal maintenance" mode. We're working on a replacement which will hopefully allow for a lot of improvements to search rankings etc., but a lot of other things have higher priority (like actually being able to serve requests in spite of getting hammered by bots and spammers).

Of course, MusicBrainz is an open source endeavour. The old search server maintainer was a volunteer from the community. If you believe you can do a better job at running our search server, please join us in #metabrainz at Freenode and introduce yourself.

The more hands we are, the more we can lift. :)

Re: MusicBrainz: an open music encyclopedia

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Post by lauretas » Mon, Jun 05, 2017, 5:43 PM UTC

Freso wrote: post #81

lauretas wrote: post #62

What about http://linkedbrainz.org ? Is it a dead project?

LinkedBrainz is not something that the MetaBrainz team is directly involved with, however, according to themselves, «[they are] back, if basic for now.» (Note that there's also a "GraphBrainz" project (also not something MetaBrainz is involved with), posted about earlier here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14479031 )

Looks like GraphBrainz stands for "MusicBrainz + GraphQL". Unfortunately, this has nothing to do with RDF.

Re: MusicBrainz: an open music encyclopedia

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Post by soulnothing » Wed, Jun 14, 2017, 7:41 PM UTC

Freso wrote: post #67

soulnothing wrote: post #49

One of my side projects is a music recommendation system. Music brainz has been great for this. Tying together all the music services out there. In addition the biggest perk is you can do a slave of their database, and have it replicate on an interval.

Are you aware of the AcousticBrainz[1] and (upcoming/in-development) ListenBrainz[2] projects? We at MetaBrainz (the organisation behind MusicBrainz and the other *Brainz projects) really hope that the combination of data MusicBrainz, AcousticBrainz, and ListenBrainz will enable powering a lot of open recommendation engines. :) [1]: https://acousticbrainz.org/ [2]: https://listenbrainz.org/

No I was not thank you for sharing :).

Re: MusicBrainz: an open music encyclopedia

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Jun 14, 2017, 7:41 PM UTC

Freso wrote: post #67

soulnothing wrote: post #49

One of my side projects is a music recommendation system. Music brainz has been great for this. Tying together all the music services out there. In addition the biggest perk is you can do a slave of their database, and have it replicate on an interval.

Are you aware of the AcousticBrainz[1] and (upcoming/in-development) ListenBrainz[2] projects? We at MetaBrainz (the organisation behind MusicBrainz and the other *Brainz projects) really hope that the combination of data MusicBrainz, AcousticBrainz, and ListenBrainz will enable powering a lot of open recommendation engines. :) [1]: https://acousticbrainz.org/ [2]: https://listenbrainz.org/

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Re: MusicBrainz: an open music encyclopedia

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Post by soulnothing » Wed, Jun 14, 2017, 7:51 PM UTC

mcdoh wrote: post #75

soulnothing wrote: post #49

One of my side projects is a music recommendation system. Music brainz has been great for this. Tying together all the music services out there. In addition the biggest perk is you can do a slave of their database, and have it replicate on an interval.

Any more info on your recommendation system? Anything we can check out?

It's dead in the water right now. The code base I wrote is atrocious it was my first python learning project. I was initially working on a system that added stuff to MPD. Then pivoted to generating spotify playlists. Then last week something changed adding songs in my mopidy from spotify stopped working.

I guess it's important to start with my listening style. I go something like David Guetta -> Frank Sinatra -> Depeche Mode -> Slipknot -> Rocky Horror Picture show. This is a very nomadic pattern. I essentially wanted a really random system of music. I had alot of thoughts on this, and sort of wish I had more time to work on this almost full time.

* In built positive weighting of the song. If you try to increase volume, re-queue that song up. It's done well. * In built negative weighting of the song/selection. If you skip within the first minute of the song, negative weight that genre and song. This goes into. * Smart shuffling. None of this random integer crap. I want it to see there are X genres in my playlist. The next song will be of a different genre, year, and country. * Proper geographical distribution. If you're skewing towards just the US then blacklist adding artists from US. My system went on a south african kick for whatever reason, and I'm a heavy spotify user. Weekly Discover is usually sticking to EBM music for me. Discover weekly, rarely gives me anything new. I want to listen to stuff from Korea, India, Africa, the 20s, 50s and now. None of the systems I've seen work like that. I had a couple of friends use it, and they really like it barring the MPD requirement.

https://github.com/soulnothing

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